taylormade tp red/black

[youngskip40]

Interesting. I haven't heard that about the new balls nor have I heard that the TP Black/Red will be discontinued. That'd be a bummer, but I'm interested in hearing more of the new Penta TP.

Anybody seen anywhere that has the inside scoop on them yet?

[ChvyKc]

Everything that I have read says that Penta will be released to the public December 1st. I couldn't really find anything that said they would discontinue the Red/Black once this ball comes out. I kind of figured that they would keep it around but at a lower price point. I sure hope so. If they can keep that ball below the $30.00 price range I'll play it over anything else.

[vanmatthew]

I thought I should make my first post a helpful post. GPPGOLF has the Taylormade TP Black/Red LDP for 20 dollars a dozen.

[Lefty22]

Everything that I have read says that Penta will be released to the public December 1st. I couldn't really find anything that said they would discontinue the Red/Black once this ball comes out. I kind of figured that they would keep it around but at a lower price point. I sure hope so. If they can keep that ball below the $30.00 price range I'll play it over anything else.

If their tour staff are playing it I really doubt it's going to be a mid-priced ball. I'd agree with the possibility suggested of the current top line being dropped and then these replacing them at the ~$45 price point.

[NativeTxn]

Are the black (or red) ok for mid swing speeds (typically 87-92 mph), or are they both designed for higher swing speeds?

[iacas]

There's (kind of) really no such thing as "designed for higher swing speeds."

That said, TM likes to talk about their low-compression core working for even slower swingers, so, give 'em a try.

[NativeTxn]

There's (kind of) really no such thing as "designed for higher swing speeds."

So do higher compression cores typically go farther for slower swingers, and lower compression cores typically go farther for faster swingers, or vice versa?

[iacas]

So do higher compression cores typically go farther for slower swingers, and lower compression cores typically go farther for faster swingers, or vice versa?

Firmer balls always have more ball speed. That's about the only thing you can say definitively.

If you can achieve good launch conditions with a firm ball, it'll go farther. If you can't, sometimes a softer ball will go further (increased backspin).

[aca247]

Is a 5 piece ball even necessary lol?

if you consider the new rules with the wedges and iron grooves the they should help out some

[NativeTxn]

You think these would perform the same as the non-practice red or blacks:

http://www.golfsmith.com/products/30...Black_Practice

[andef]

The Penta TP is coming out this fall but I believe that the TP Red/Black will be still sold. You can take the example of the Pro V1. The 2009 came out but shops are still selling the 07 version.

[golfbarefoot]

http://blogs.golf.com/equipment/2009...-pga-tour.html

The new Penta ball has been in R&D; for three years and looks serious. 5 layer is interesting. I cant wait to talk to my TM rep about these, TM is making serious strides with their balls and for a ball that packs such good distance like the current TP's, but remains soft with spin, this Penta ball could be unreal.

People who already play softer, spinnier balls will obviously not be as affected by the new groove rule like those that play firmer distance balls with little to no spin

[clubchamp]

Today was the first time I used a tp black since I just switched to the penta(great ball) and wanted to check out the tp's to see how they played. I don't know if the ball just doesn't work with my swing or what was going on but I was losing 10 to 15 yards a shot with the tp black. I hit a penta, pro v1, tp red, pro v1x, and tp black with the driver and all of them were with in 5 yards but the tp black was 10 yards back. Tried with a 7i same exact result. I was jut curious if anyone else has had this problem with the tp black.


I've always played pro v1 until this year when I got a free sleeve of penta's.

[James_Black]

well TP black is for people with fast swing speeds and red's for slow swing speeds. (Might be the other way round)
But I doubt you swing the club slow so I don't know why.

It's also a 3 piece golf ball while the others are 4 piece (Penta is 5 piece)

[EHSGolf1]

I think the Black launches the ball higher and adds spin and that is probably why you are losing distance.

[jaj23]

I just bought the TP Red...I haven't used them yet though. I was under the impression that the Red had less spin than the Black...but it looks like I am wrong. If I hit the ball far, but with limited control (lots of hooks and occasional slices) would I be better off with the Black? I'm just getting into golf more so I will be asking a lot of questions here. Thanks for your help.

[youngskip40]

well TP black is for people with fast swing speeds and red's for slow swing speeds. (Might be the other way round)

It's not really for either, but if anything it would be the other way around. Since the Black launches higher and spins more, theoretically it would be more advantageous to someone with a slower swing speed. That said, they are both premium golf balls played by tour players... neither are necessarily designed for "slow" swing speeds.

I just bought the TP Red...I haven't used them yet though. I was under the impression that the Red had less spin than the Black...but it looks like I am wrong. If I hit the ball far, but with limited control (lots of hooks and occasional slices) would I be better off with the Black? I'm just getting into golf more so I will be asking a lot of questions here. Thanks for your help.

No, you are right. TP Red has less spin. Theoretically, the Red would be better for reducing side-spin.

[jaj23]

No, you are right. TP Red has less spin. Theoretically, the Red would be better for reducing side-spin.

OK...thanks for clarifying. The Red is the right one for me then.