Can Somebody Explain to Me Why Lie Angle Balanced Putters Are Important?

[ChetlovesMer]

This video got into my youtube feed. And I watched it. 
But I'm confused why not spinning in "the revealer" is important to making putts. 

Maybe I'm oversimplifying this, but it seems to me, your hands are holding the putter. So, it isn't going to spin when you swing it. The ball isn't that heavy so as to overpower my hands when I don't hit it dead center. If the ball was so heavy as to overpower my hands when I don't hit it dead center, than certainly it would be heavy enough to overpower the lie-angle balance, right? 

Don't get me wrong. I like the demo. It's something they can show people and say "Look our putter is different." But the more I think about it the less I think this feature matters. 

I have an open mind, however. 
Let me know if there's really a benefit to this that I just don't understand. 

 

 

[boogielicious]

I looked at the video for ten seconds and immediately thought of this.
 

I am Vinz Clortho, Minion of Gozer. Buy my putter!

[iacas]

Ralph Maltby | Evolution of putter designs and Zero Torque |

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Discuss, ask and learn about golf and clubmaking from the experts at The GolfWorks

I posted that link elsewhere. Probably in the LAB thread.

[GolfLug]

Quite a few LAB putters in our league and must have hit 50 odd putts with two design variations this summer at the practice green. Also spent 30 minutes at GG messing around with it few weekends ago.

My two cents: It is disingenuous to say zero torque putters are totally placebo. Dynamically balanced lie-angle has some merit. Take a few strokes and you will quickly realize there is zero heel or toe drag  (as advertised) due to the putter head's own MOI. That's not nothing. It seems to reduce rotational hand manipulation (twist torque) to keep face square. YMMV but again, that's not nothing. Of course there is still gear effect due to off-center strikes but they are not claiming to cure that. 

The jury on the forward leaning grip is out but I certainly like the feel. Impact with slightly rising hands seems natural.

I'm not in love with it but then I have never been in love with anything about putting. The funny look is a bit off putting but I'm considering it. 

@ChetlovesMer, we use only a fraction of our power in a putting stroke and when either heel or toe lags dynamically you counter it dynamically with ever so slight more  twist 'power', which adds a degree of variability. 

IMHO nothing beats an actual trial to find out for yourself. 

Edited 3 hours ago by GolfLug

[ChetlovesMer]

7 hours ago, iacas said:

Ralph Maltby | Evolution of putter designs and Zero Torque |

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Discuss, ask and learn about golf and clubmaking from the experts at The GolfWorks

I posted that link elsewhere. Probably in the LAB thread.

Hmm... Somehow I missed or forgot about that thread. This is a pretty good read. Interesting indeed.

[iacas]

34 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

My two cents: It is disingenuous to say zero torque putters are totally placebo. Dynamically balanced lie-angle has some merit. Take a few strokes and you will quickly realize there is zero heel or toe drag  (as advertised) due to the putter head's own MOI. That's not nothing. It seems to reduce rotational hand manipulation (twist torque) to keep face square. YMMV but again, that's not nothing. Of course there is still gear effect due to off-center strikes but they are not claiming to cure that.

Eh. The forces and torques in even the most "toe hang" putter is incredibly small. Overcome simply by lifting the club off the ground, which is why the Revealer needs to be so well aligned and smooth.

Plus all that's said in the thread about how the Revealer isn't even possibly genuine.

I'm generally against shitty science.

[ChetlovesMer]

1 hour ago, GolfLug said:

IMHO nothing beats an actual trial to find out for yourself. 

I will be very close to a PGA Superstore today. I'm going to pop in and give them a test drive.

[GolfLug]

2 hours ago, iacas said:

Plus all that's said in the thread about how the Revealer isn't even possibly genuine.

Yeah, can't say anything about the Revealer as no experience. Went by my first hand experience with the putter as posted. 

2 hours ago, iacas said:

Overcome simply by lifting the club off the ground, 

Lift heel like Stricker? If yes, not a fan in general but I get what you are saying.

1 hour ago, ChetlovesMer said:

I will be very close to a PGA Superstore today. I'm going to pop in and give them a test drive.

Very interested in what you find out. I think I'm bit more easily influenced by short term trials but I thought it had merit in that it did what it claims. No more, no less.

Edited 37 minutes ago by GolfLug