Ian Poulter - Ass

[GrandStranded]

7 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

Won't/can't root for a dick in golf or life. The chip on the shoulder about his past is BS - 'I was pushed around growing, so I won't take any prisoners'. You gotta get past that at some point. Especially when things have cleared up. Grow the eff up.

I have never heard of stories about Tiger yelling at or demeaning a fan.

He had Stevie Williams for that. He rarely acknowledged anything or anyone around him.

4 minutes ago, NEhomer said:

I don't know what point you're trying to make.

Seriously?

[Shorty]

7 minutes ago, NEhomer said:

I don't know what point you're trying to make.

You said: "I would have no problem if his emotions were genuine. My suspicion, however, is that he cherishes his "intensity" photo ops. The putt he just made wasn't difficult or clutch.....he could have swiped it multiple times and still won."

Crenshaw's putt wasn't that hard either. It was a couple of feet but I'm not doubting his emotions were genuine. I am questioning why you think Poulter's emotional display is not genuine. He didn't react BECAUSE he made  a two foot putt. Nor did Crenshaw.

Not sure why I had to write it twice.

Edited April 2, 2018 by Shorty

[jbishop15]

5 hours ago, GrandStranded said:

I think a lot of the anti-Poulter guys just hated watching him kick butt in the Ryder Cup. I wonder, @NEhomer and @Bucki1968, if Justin Thomas' "F*** yeah" in the exact situation, or Tiger's fist pumps and other on course antics rubbed you the same way? I like when they show their emotions out there, but if it doesn't bother me when the guys I like do it, I can't complain when those I don't like do it.                                                                    

I just think he's a jerk. I think back to that incident with Matsuyama from a few years back, where he went out of his way to embarrass Matsuyama while simultaneously embellishing what had actually happened. Factor in that by his own expectations he's a huge disappointment and a loudmouth, and you've got a recipe tailor-made for me to dislike you.

[iacas]

I had no problem with his reaction Sunday. I think it was genuine.

But I was rooting against him something fierce.

[b101]

5 hours ago, GrandStranded said:

I get that, and I think you're 100% correct about the chip on his shoulder. I give him a lot of rope because of a story I read about him years ago. He talked about growing up in a poor family, getting a job working in a pro shop as a young kid, where they made fun of his working class accent. He'd see others his age come to play dressed in expensive outfits he couldn't afford, and playing new expensive clubs. He was the guy who was refolding or hanging the merchandise they tried on and discarded. He talked about practicing endlessly in the dark after work, eventually dropping out of school and turning pro. I don't remember exactly what he said his handicap was at the time, but it was high enough that he was ridiculed for doing so. I loved the story, admired his grit, and have been a fan ever since. It also might explain his flashy style of dress and lack of a "polished" persona. 

Turned pro off four: http://www.golftoday.co.uk/golf_international_mag/features/ian_poulter_interview.html

I do think he has calmed down a bit since late 2000s and whilst I wouldn't say his recent troubles have humbled him, he comes across in recent interviews with Sky as a lot more rational than he used to.

[Shorty]

12 minutes ago, jbishop15 said:

I just think he's a jerk. I think back to that incident with Matsuyama from a few years back, where he went out of his way to embarrass Matsuyama while simultaneously embellishing what had actually happened. Factor in that by his own expectations he's a huge disappointment and a loudmouth, and you've got a recipe tailor-made for me to dislike you.

Spieth can accuse someone's caddy of being a crap bunker raker and blame them for  a double bogey. Poulter has a go at Matsuyama for belting the green with his putter.

Now...imagine if Poulter was seen photographing a bunker after it was poorly raked and submitting it to the PGATour.  And then blamed a three putt on it. And imagine if Poulter bashed the green with his putter.   

If truth be told, the picture below is the reason why so many people dislike him. All this and no stroke play win in the US.  

Poulter ostentatious? Never.....

 

Edited April 2, 2018 by Shorty

[GolfLug]

1 minute ago, GrandStranded said:

He had Stevie Williams for that. He rarely acknowledged anything or anyone around him.

I didn't root for Stevie either. Same mold. Not sure what that had to do with Tiger though. If anything I would think that type a behavior from caddie would be a distraction.  

 

 

[b101]

4 minutes ago, Shorty said:

Spieth can accuse someone's caddy of being a crap bunker raker and blame them for  a double bogey. Poulter has  ago at Matsuyama for belting the green with his putter.

Now...imagine if Poulter was seen photographing a bunker after it was poorly raked and submitting it to the PGATour.  And then blamed a three putt on it. And imagine if Poulter bashed the green with his putter.   

And, in fairness, Matsuyama apologised the day after and they shook hands on it. 

[GolfLug]

1 minute ago, b101 said:

And, in fairness, Matsuyama apologised the day after and they shook hands on it. 

That's the thing. He (IP) always seems to go for extra credit. WTF.

[jbishop15]

1 hour ago, Shorty said:

Spieth can accuse someone's caddy of being a crap bunker raker and blame them for  a double bogey. Poulter has a go at Matsuyama for belting the green with his putter.

Now...imagine if Poulter was seen photographing a bunker after it was poorly raked and submitting it to the PGATour.  And then blamed a three putt on it. And imagine if Poulter bashed the green with his putter.   

If truth be told, the picture below is the reason why so many people dislike him. All this and no stroke play win in the US.  

Poulter ostentatious? Never.....

 

I can't speak to whatever incident with Spieth you're referring to, but even factoring that it, I don't think he's shown a pattern of dickhead behavior. 

I don't mind Poulter having a lot of flashy cars and homes. That means nothing to me. It's the way he treats his fellow players and the media and the fans. He's just a jerk, and to make it worse, he doesn't even win! 

[Shorty]

38 minutes ago, jbishop15 said:

and to make it worse, he doesn't even win! 

Posted on April 3 2018 LOL. 

I am no Poulter fan, but there are some double standards at work.

And in any case you've agreed with me. The hate stems from a lack of wins, largely.

 

Edited April 2, 2018 by Shorty

[turtleback]

3 hours ago, GrandStranded said:

A "The Schnozz" reference!!! In a golf forum discussing Ian Poulter. Well done.

Not surprising - after all it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

Poulter can play in the Masters, but I hope Tiger gets  'da big doubleya'

 

[jbishop15]

1 hour ago, Shorty said:

Posted on April 3 2018 LOL. 

I am no Poulter fan, but there are some double standards at work.

And in any case you've agreed with me. The hate stems from a lack of wins, largely.

 

I understand that he won yesterday. That does not discount the literal years where he talked cash shit and did nothing to back it up. 

I don't think it's double standards. Spieth doesn't have a decade of this behavior under his belt. It's different, and it's easy to see why it's different. 

It's exciting when a brash talent takes the world by storm. If I'm gonna have to listen to someone mouth off, I'd rather them dunk on me and mean it. It's much more annoying when they talk trash and can't hit it out of their shadow. 

 

[Shorty]

20 minutes ago, jbishop15 said:

I understand that he won yesterday. That does not discount the literal years where he talked cash shit and did nothing to back it up. 

 

He has a reputation as an incredible team and match player and has done more than "nothing". 

He has won a lot less than you'd think you'd have to to have the millions he has - I don't think his clothing business could be THAT profitable - but he's one of those guys whose attitude just sticks in the craw and they never get over it. A bit like people whingeing about Tiger's "T-shirts" (mock turtleneck - ) eight years after he stopped wearing them.

He's a passionate player who's a complete dick a lot of the time, but I don't think all of the criticism is warranted. His win last week was impressive and he deserves credit for that.

Seriously - if he was photographed taking out his phone and photographing a bunker and then showing it to a PGATour official, I think it would be seen as the biggest douche move of the decade. Spieth probably regrets doing it. He's too smart to repeat that sort of stuff.

 

 

[ChrisP]

Not a Poulter fan. No encounters or anything, just accounts from other people and what I see on tv. Reminds me a lot of Colin Montgomerie but more annoying. He just rubs me the wrong way. But it's whatever. Congrats to him on finally winning a stroke play event in the States. Took him long enough for someone who has a mighty big ego of himself.

Edited April 2, 2018 by ChrisP

[Buckeyebowman]

4 hours ago, jbishop15 said:

I can't speak to whatever incident with Spieth you're referring to, but even factoring that it, I don't think he's shown a pattern of dickhead behavior. 

I don't mind Poulter having a lot of flashy cars and homes. That means nothing to me. It's the way he treats his fellow players and the media and the fans. He's just a jerk, and to make it worse, he doesn't even win! 

Except when it's in the Ryder Cup! Or this past week! When Poulter was routinely kicking our collective asses in the Ryder Cup, a friend of mine asked what the US needed to do to have a chance to win. I told him that we needed to find a guy like Ian Poulter!

As far as winning a lot of money goes, there's a guy from here who is on the Tour and has never come close to winning anything! He made 1.3 Million dollars on Tour last year! Not saying it was easy, just saying that you don't have to win a lot to make a damned nice living out there. Hell, 1.3 Mill is less than some winner's purses these days.

Edited April 3, 2018 by Buckeyebowman

[Moxley]

Nobody's perfect, Poulter has a few flaws, but then so do I.

For me, Ian Poulter is one of those players who make golf worth watching. He's passionate, shows his human side and brings a sense of theatre to the game.

 

 

[NEhomer]

14 hours ago, Shorty said:

You said: "I would have no problem if his emotions were genuine. My suspicion, however, is that he cherishes his "intensity" photo ops. The putt he just made wasn't difficult or clutch.....he could have swiped it multiple times and still won."

Crenshaw's putt wasn't that hard either. It was a couple of feet but I'm not doubting his emotions were genuine. I am questioning why you think Poulter's emotional display is not genuine. He didn't react BECAUSE he made  a two foot putt. Nor did Crenshaw.

Not sure why I had to write it twice.

You had to write it twice because it's retarded. Please point out where I remotely suggested that all players showing emotion on the last hole are disingenuous unless the putt they just made was difficult. In Ben's case, he carried Harvey Penick's coffin that week.

Players who's win is pre-determined prior to holing out don't generally go all intensity dude on the shot. That's all I'm saying and at that, I copped to quite possibly mis-reading the whole thing.