Jack vs. Tiger: Who's the Greatest Golfer?

[Double Mocha Man]

4 minutes ago, Shorty said:

 “Lifestyle”. Give me strength……….

💪

[billchao]

2 hours ago, Billy Z said:

How much does lifestyle come into play deciding who is the greatest? Some will probably say it doesn't come into play at all, and should be based purely on golf skill, and some may say otherwise. What contrasting lifestyles these two golfers have had. If they both played in the same era, based on pure golf skill, I would have to give the edge to Tiger.

Tiger made more money faster than Jack, was set for life in his early 20’s and still had the competitive drive and skill to dominate the sport. Tiger wins 😃

[Billy Z]

Both tiger and Jack highest ambitions in their golfing careers were centered on how many majors they had won. Each golfer geared up, rested up, and focused immensely on winning majors. And both set the standard, although didn't say this directly, that the greatest they could be would be with the number of Majors they would win.

“Jack was top three in a third of the Majors he played – he’s the best.”

Edited June 26 by Billy Z

[dennyjones]

10 minutes ago, Billy Z said:

Both tiger and Jack highest ambitions in their golfing careers were centered on how many majors they had won. Each golfer geared up, rested up, and focused immensely on winning majors. And both set the standard, although didn't say this directly, that the greatest they could be would be with the number of Majors they would win.

“Jack was top three in a third of the Majors he played – he’s the best.”

 

[Shorty]

16 minutes ago, Billy Z said:

 

“Jack was top three in a third of the Majors he played – he’s the best.”

Jack Nicklaus is the best at winning majors and coming second in majors.

After almost 7000 posts in the thread a few of us have gathered that.

This is a thread about who is or was the best player. It is not the same discussion.

The total number of majors thing is not the measure. Have you not realised this yet? 

Peter Thomson (5 Opens) was better than Greg Norman (2 Opens) according to your logic, even though Norman was Number 1 in OWGR for 331 weeks.

Edited June 26 by Shorty

[boogielicious]

2 minutes ago, Billy Z said:

Both tiger and Jack highest ambitions in their golfing careers were centered on how many majors they had won. Each golfer geared up, rested up, and focused immensely on winning majors. And both set the standard, although didn't say this directly, that the greatest they could be would be with the number of Majors they would win.

“Jack was top three in a third of the Majors he played – he’s the best.”

This is not correct. First both focused on amateur championships. Tiger has more Junior and Senior. They then focused on college championships and both have 1. 

Then they both focused on PGA Tour wins. Jack, later in career, when he finally had more majors than others, moved the goal posts and stated majors were the only criteria. He never came close to Snead in total wins. He played some European and other worldwide tournaments, but mainly focused on the PGA Tour. 

It was Jack that complained about the week competition in majors like the PGA Championship. And it’s easy to make the top three when there are only four that have a chance to win!😜

[Shorty]

4 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

This is not correct. First both focused on amateur championships. Tiger has more Junior and Senior. They then focused on college championships and both have 1. 

 

Exactly, and Jack used to refer to Amateur championships as majors.

[Vinsk]

28 minutes ago, Shorty said:

Exactly, and Jack used to refer to Amateur championships as majors.

And why did he change the emphasis on those wins? 

[ncates00]

1 hour ago, Double Mocha Man said:

It's really cool how they're able to air condition modern courses these days.  😉

From your icon I'm thinking you're in the Pacific Northwest.  Who says it always rains here?  Do you have a round booked for Monday when it'll be105 degrees?

Bro, did you forget me?! We’ve chatted in DM. Speaking of, is that function now gone? I don’t see that anywhere. I was going to message you and @Vinsk (about different matters). 

[iacas]

1 hour ago, Shorty said:

This is where we are in this thread:

Tiger has been proven beyond doubt that he is the greatest.

There’s no “proof” here, but the majority would agree with that opinion./

1 hour ago, Billy Z said:

Both tiger and Jack highest ambitions in their golfing careers were centered on how many majors they had won. Each golfer geared up, rested up, and focused immensely on winning majors. And both set the standard, although didn't say this directly, that the greatest they could be would be with the number of Majors they would win.

“Jack was top three in a third of the Majors he played – he’s the best.”

Uhm, no.

We’ve been over this, @Billy Z. Many, many, many times.

[turtleback]

22 hours ago, Throwback said:

I agree with Shorty.

You and Shorty should call 911, or the Australian version in Shorty's case, and report the guy holding the gun to your head forcing you to click on and read this thread.

[Throwback]

7 minutes ago, turtleback said:

You and Shorty should call 911, or the Australian version in Shorty's case, and report the guy holding the gun to your head forcing you to click on and read this thread.

LOL , yeah your right , just can't figure this is still a point of discussion after so long.

[turtleback]

13 minutes ago, Throwback said:

LOL , yeah your right , just can't figure this is still a point of discussion after so long.

Because people still come here and make silly comments.  Like you did.

[StuM]

Tiger Woods Corrects Dwyane Wade After Basketball Star Calls Him the GOAT: 'I'm Not There Yet'

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"I'm not done," 82-time PGA Tour winner Tiger Woods repeated after retired NBA star Dwyane Wade...

I do not think his comment “I’m not done” simply meant he expected he could do more in his professional career.  He neither accepted nor declined the monicker of GOAT.

[iacas]

To those asking sarcastically if we could consider someone with 12 or 13 majors and 60 or 70 wins the GOAT someday… how’s that working out? Rory is stuck. Spieth. Koepka. JT. Collin won 2 of 8. Tiger won 7 of 11 or something at one point.

Winning majors right now is hard. Tiger did it better than anyone ever all things considered.

[pganapathy]

36 minutes ago, StuM said:

Tiger Woods Corrects Dwyane Wade After Basketball Star Calls Him the GOAT: 'I'm Not There Yet'

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"I'm not done," 82-time PGA Tour winner Tiger Woods repeated after retired NBA star Dwyane Wade...

I do not think his comment “I’m not done” simply meant he expected he could do more in his professional career.  He neither accepted nor declined the monicker of GOAT.

I think Tiger always measured his greatness against Jack's total of 18 majors.  If he exceeds that he will consider himself the GOAT.  If not, there will always be this debate

[StuM]

1 hour ago, StuM said:

Tiger Woods Corrects Dwyane Wade After Basketball Star Calls Him the GOAT: 'I'm Not There Yet'

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"I'm not done," 82-time PGA Tour winner Tiger Woods repeated after retired NBA star Dwyane Wade...

I do not think his comment “I’m not done” simply meant he expected he could do more in his professional career.  He neither accepted nor declined the monicker of GOAT.

Opps, bad editing.  The sentence should have read "I think his comment.....".  I started to write it one way then changed.  the "do not" should have been deleted.

[iacas]

2 hours ago, pganapathy said:

I think Tiger always measured his greatness against Jack's total of 18 majors.  If he exceeds that he will consider himself the GOAT.  If not, there will always be this debate

He didn’t.

He measured based on ages.