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Jack vs. Tiger: Who's the Greatest Golfer?


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  1. 1. Tiger or Jack: Who's the greatest golfer?

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5 hours ago, turtleback said:

I just watched the 2000 PGA Championship playoff where Bob May gifted the win to Tiger.

How? You call making 3 pars gifting the PGA  to Tiger? Tiger had to scramble for his 2 pars. But the birdie he made on 16. No he went and got that one... literally.

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For some reason, you have missed hundreds of posts that do accept that.  I've often said I can't even prove that Tiger would beat Vardon head to head, although I'd bet on him. What I CAN prove is

Here ya go, right our of Jack's 1996 autobiography.  He is giving the third of his three reasons (equipment and fitness being the other) for the decline of the superstar in golf (re

That's very unfair to Jack, since he played events well into his 60's.  It also distorts Tiger's record, since he played injured for several years. It would be more fair to look at the the period

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14 minutes ago, onthehunt526 said:

How? You call making 3 pars gifting the PGA  to Tiger? Tiger had to scramble for his 2 pars. But the birdie he made on 16. No he went and got that one... literally.

Better get your facetious meter re-calibrated. 😉 This was a take off on the silly idea that DeMarco gifted the 2005 Masters to Tiger.  😄

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1 minute ago, turtleback said:

Better get your facetious meter re-calibrated. 😉 This was a take off on the silly idea that DeMarco gifted the 2005 Masters to Tiger.  😄

DiMarco totally gifted the ‘05 Masters to Tiger... on the second nine of the third round Sunday morning... and yeah that chip on the 72nd hole so should have went in. 😀

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13 minutes ago, onthehunt526 said:

DiMarco totally gifted the ‘05 Masters to Tiger... on the second nine of the third round Sunday morning... and yeah that chip on the 72nd hole so should have went in. 😀

LOL

The whole field gifted Tiger the 2000 US Open and then did it again at the 2000 British Open.

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15 minutes ago, turtleback said:

LOL

The whole field gifted Tiger the 2000 US Open and then did it again at the 2000 British Open.

Yep. Jack was never so lucky to be gifted a major. Those club pros gave him their best every tournament in the early years! 

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In every sport better training technologies and more participation has resulted in much better athletes.  In sports that performance can be measured athletes today are miles ahead. I don't see why golf is any difference. Golf is much more competitive now compared to the 70s and 80s. Tiger is much better than Jack.

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22 minutes ago, khalespace said:

In every sport better training technologies and more participation has resulted in much better athletes.  In sports that performance can be measured athletes today are miles ahead. I don't see why golf is any difference. Golf is much more competitive now compared to the 70s and 80s. Tiger is much better than Jack.

I agree. I think people forget that fact. It’s not a slam or derogatory to Jack. It’s just the way it is. The fields today are vastly more difficult every generation..hell, every year. If a guy ran a mile in 4min around an asphalt track compared to a guy who ran it in 5min but with hills, mud, water …the Jack side would say the better runner is the 4min. They completely disregard the important factors on the accomplishment.

15>18. Easily.

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I am not sure that I have this right but am pretty certain that at the height of his powers, say 2000, the difference between Tiger and  #2 in the OWGR  was greater than the difference between #2  and #200 in the OWGR.

 

Week 50 2000 

1. Tiger 1323 points

2. Els 617 points

199. Beem 51 points

 

 

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18 hours ago, Shorty said:

I am not sure that I have this right but am pretty certain that at the height of his powers, say 2000, the difference between Tiger and  #2 in the OWGR  was greater than the difference between #2  and #200 in the OWGR.

 

Week 50 2000 

1. Tiger 1323 points

2. Els 617 points

199. Beem 51 points

 

 

I just caught a clip of Justin Leonard talking about the Slam.  I haven't verified any of the numbers, but he said Tiger was 71 shots ahead of him in the Slam majors.  Then they said that Leonard had the second fewest bogies in those 4 events with 41.  Of course, Tiger was best with on 23 bogies.  In 291 holes.  On major championship difficult courses.  In the 2 Opens he finished a combined 23 strokes in the lead.

There is no one statistic that can measure this extraordinary achievement.  The only things I can think of that can even be spoken of in the same breath are Secretariat's Triple Crown run and Raphael Nadal's absolute dominance at Roland Garros.

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38 minutes ago, turtleback said:

The only things I can think of that can even be spoken of in the same breath are Secretariat's Triple Crown run and Raphael Nadal's absolute dominance at Roland Garros.

And Jack winning 18 majors. 🥴. Yeah…party’s over. Jack is maybe a close second to Tiger and that’s being real gracious to Jack.

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On 5/20/2021 at 5:59 PM, Vinsk said:

And Jack winning 18 majors. 🥴. Yeah…party’s over. Jack is maybe a close second to Tiger and that’s being real gracious to Jack.

Real gracious how? Tiger is clearly the GOAT, but who has a legit/strong case over Nicklaus as #2? And why?

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18 minutes ago, csh19792001 said:

Real gracious how? Tiger is clearly the GOAT, but who has a legit/strong case over Nicklaus as #2? And why?

I meant ‘close’ second as being gracious. 

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