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Ok well I'm working on several things here, better posture, rolling forearms and stop the flip at the bottom. As the video shows there still is a flip at the bottom that I just can't stop. I hit the ball extremely high as in this video you can't see it but my ball rockets to the top of the dome. Any and all comments will be greatly appreciated, thanks for looking.

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

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I like the swing. A lot better than most swings you'll see on this thread. Maybe a little slower on the take away. Plus, if you stop the vid at impact it looks like your standing up versus getting left. The wrist thing, Im sure some prople might say you have a strong left hand and a weak right (I do the same). Not sure it needs fixed though....

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Pretty solid swing. Good tempo. Were were you aming at, though? It looked from the video that you were aligned off to the right on that white pole in front of you but it seemed you were looking at the flag way to the left of it. But it could have been just the angle of the camera shot misleading me.
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I would say that the biggest thing would be the top of the backswing. You let the club "droop" a bit here, and it comes down nearly to your neck. As a result, the wrists are too active, and the club whips around your body, and flips at the bottom. This causes the really high ball that you mention.

Just looking at the video, it appears that you make the right moves, but the control of the swing is more in the arms and wrists, and less in the stronger core muscles. You want the wrists to be quieter, and let the core drive the club. This will allow you to be more solid and will bring the flight down a touch. The swing you have now will be extremely solid on some days, but inconsistent on others. Using the core is much more consistent.

I take some time now and then, and tee some balls up, grab a FW wood with a weak shaft (I have a few I practice with, they're good tools), then just turn my shoulders. I make absolute sure to keep my arms totally passive. If this feels foreign, I know my wrists have become too involved again. I need to make sure to feel that good "snap" at the bottom of the swing that comes from totally relaxed wrists releasing the club properly. When it's done right, the ball should merely be picked off the tee, and you should feel as if you never actually swung at it, but almost like you merely turned your shoulders, and you should feel almost nothing (unless you mishit it badly). If you feel much from the club, your wrists are too tense.

I like the swing. A lot better than most swings you'll see on this thread. Maybe a little slower on the take away. Plus, if you stop the vid at impact it looks like your standing up versus getting left. The wrist thing, Im sure some prople might say you have a strong left hand and a weak right (I do the same). Not sure it needs fixed though....

Thanks for the reply as I'm working on staying in a more athletic position at impact. I have tried to slow it down my take away but my timing fails miserably. Thanks again for the comments.

Pretty solid swing. Good tempo. Were were you aming at, though? It looked from the video that you were aligned off to the right on that white pole in front of you but it seemed you were looking at the flag way to the left of it. But it could have been just the angle of the camera shot misleading me.

Thanks for the reply, There are some targets on the back of the dome that you can't see in the video basically they are basically on the right side of the fake greeen and that is what I was aiming for. Thanks again for the reply.

I would say that the biggest thing would be the top of the backswing. You let the club "droop" a bit here, and it comes down nearly to your neck. As a result, the wrists are too active, and the club whips around your body, and flips at the bottom. This causes the really high ball that you mention.

Thanks for the reply shanks...I'm not certain what you mean by "droop"...do you mean the head of the club? I will try a more passive swing next time on the range...its tough to break old habits. Thanks for the help.

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


Thanks for merging those post Iacas, its appreciated. Any comments on my swing? :)

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


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Thanks for merging those post Iacas, its appreciated. Any comments on my swing? :)

Here's my comment:

No: Yes: http://thesandtrap.com/forum/threads...LIDE-Your-Hips Does that count as two comments? :) (Sorry, not trying to be short, but RUS-CZE is on...)

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Thanks...so slide instead of turn and open?

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


Thanks...so slide instead of turn and open?

Remember what I said about turning the shoulders? After you turn them back, you don't merely turn them back through. You slide your hips forward; just thrust them to the left,

don't turn them (they will turn automatically). This will start the downswing procedure. It will feel like a vacuum is pulling your club down and through the hitting area, and you won't believe the way the ball just penetrates out into the air, and the incredible power that you'll feel at impact. It will feel very unusual, to say the least, but you'll love the feeling of that ball just piercing through the wind like a dart.

Ok...so the hips sliding forward is what should trigger the down swing? I know I want to have that feeling of a penetrating ball flight...Thank yo so much for the comments.

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


I will work on the sliding of the hips and post some videos, thanks.

Any other comments....

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


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Ok...so I've been working on trying to get the hips to move towards the target before the they spin out. I think this is better but not 100% sure. Any comments will be greatly appreciated, thanks.

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


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Ok...so I've been working on trying to get the hips to move towards the target before the they spin out. I think this is better but not 100% sure. Any comments will be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Better. Now more of this:

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Well one step at a time, that was about 5 sessions at the dome and countless swings in the garage to get to what a I thought was somewhat better. Keeping the hands in front is going to be a TOUGH one. Maybe time to get an impact bag?

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


Well one step at a time, that was about 5 sessions at the dome and countless swings in the garage to get to what a I thought was somewhat better. Keeping the hands in front is going to be a TOUGH one. Maybe time to get an impact bag?

Looks quite a bit more solid, more body now. Notice the club comes back and sits nice and square to the arms at the top, not drooping like a janitor's keys.


Looks quite a bit more solid, more body now. Notice the club comes back and sits nice and square to the arms at the top, not drooping like a janitor's keys.

Thanks for the reply, it was a ton of work to get to that point. When you say more body do you mean more shoulder turn? Or something else?

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


Thanks for the reply, it was a ton of work to get to that point. When you say more body do you mean more shoulder turn? Or something else?

Body in general, legs, hips, shoulders, and core, but less arms. You want minimal arm and wrist involvement, but maximum arms.

Your swing top: You're closer now. You still seem to let the arms do a lot of the turn, but you're getting there. You want to have that position at the top where your whole body is loaded and ready to explode. The shoulder points behind the ball. That's where good players are. Heck, even my fat ass gets there: Despite a huge lack of flexibility (my head must turn back as well, as you can see), my swing generates enormous power, even though I never get off my left side. Because I use my large muscles, I smash the ball.

Shanks thanks for the clarification on that...I've always been a handsy type golfer and after 20 plus years I now understand the game a little more. Jeez wish I was taught the correct swing a while ago. Thanks again. I will add more video in a few weeks to see if I can get the body more involved.

In my bag:
MP 57's 4-PW KBS Stiff
Ping G 20 10.5* Stiff
Taylormade V Steel 3 and 5 wood

Bridgestone J33 R Hybrid 21* NV Shaft
Mizuno MP Quad Cut 52* and 56* Spinner Shafts

Scotty Cameron Newport Two TeI3


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