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His upper body is alot more forward than you see in a Stack and Tilt swing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, but that's not a huge deal. It's down on the list of things Tiger could fix. I've always said hand path first and better tilting and extending second (though not far behind).

Sean Foley doesn't really teach the S&T; downswing. Frankly, I think he should, and why he doesn't is a question without a true answer. Many believe it's because he simply hasn't gotten far enough in teaching his players that he cares about the move post-impact, and some would say he simply has different ideas about the post-impact move. I think it's a mixture of both, but more of the former... Basically, Tiger's still snapping the left knee very early in the downswing. He, IMHO, should be taught to slide forward more with the left knee and hips. What he does post-P8 is of little concern to me (Charlie Wi lets his upper center go forward after P8-ish... not a really big deal in the scheme of things), but he's going up with the knees and up with the hips too early (at the expense of going forward longer) and the upper body is going forward too soon as he's letting himself get pulled through the shot just a little bit. Let me put it another way: Tiger knows he wants to feel his weight getting well left at and after impact. Rather than do it by pushing the knee and hips forward a little more, he does it by letting his upper center move a little earlier. Tiger stops "turning his shoulders in a circle" very quickly after impact.
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This swing is not a lot different from his old hold off approach shots (150-160 yard 8 irons, for example.) You can tell he opened up a hint to soon as the left leg gets snapped slightly sooner than what many would want to see. This is still a swing that requires more timing than it should. His finish is sort of immaterial since this particular shot does not appear to be one where he was going for maximum distance. That is what I see, but what do I know... he may have blasted it. I do like his top of the backswing position a lot better than his Haney position. There is a better mix of linear and rotational motion.
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his hands dont really go that deep on the backswing do they? how much different are the arms in his backswing from when he was with haney?

They go quite a bit deeper earlier, yes.

I don't know what you mean by the vague "that" deep... They go deep enough that he's basically a one-plane swinger, which is fairly deep.
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Wow. Pretty eerie that this is where tiger is now.

And yes, his hands are much deeper than they used to be, look at him working to get them inside at P2.
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I truly believe Tiger's problem is between his ears! His realization that he ruined his marriage and negatively effected so many people, including his own children, is a tough burden to bare. If his mind was free from these demons, it wouldn't matter if I were his swing coach. He would win. I feel that before all of his transgressions came to light, he was able to compartmentalize his life and rationalize/justify his excesses. Now that the "cat's out of the bag", his head is a swirling mess of guilt and remorse. I know for me that when i play a round of golf and my mind is right, i play a whole lot better than when i'm upset about something. I can't imagine how hard it must be to have to perform at his level under the mental turmoil with which he is experiencing! I hope he gets his MOJO back, on the course that is. Golf is not the same when he's not at the top of his game!
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Tiger's swing has not been great for some time, so his talent and mind strength has definitely helped him win all those tournaments. The whole marriage and women situation has probably had it's effect on him mentally, which resulted in variable performance through the year. Remember he did finish 4th at the Masters, his first tournament after the "scandal". He should (probably is too) be working on making the swing less dependant on timing and compensations. The more of that stuff, the more he will suffer when the mental part is not 100%. He needs a swing that is reliable and with few enough compensations that he can play at this point. The whole situtation has faded off since it blew up almost a year a go, so the effects of it are probably close to worn out.
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thats what sean foley teaches for his follow through

Not really what Sean teaches... Tiger's working on that because he has a tendency to let his head dip to his right on the downswing. He does it less with the club on a better plane at the top but it was part of his "drop it in the slot" move that he had to time perfectly under Haney.

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Hunter Mahan shares what he knows about the golf swing: http://www.golf.com/golf/gallery/art...8758-1,00.html

Slide 1 is S&T;? Check.
Slide 2? Check.
Slide 3? Check, though a bit less with the head going forward (what's that about? Hunter's doesn't).
Slide 4? Yeah, but we rarely get to talk about this. Some players are slow to get their arms down.
Slide 5? Sorta, but not really. S&T; uses the braking principle to let you hit the ball harder.
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Hunter Mahan shares what he knows about the golf swing:

There's an inset picture labeled No, but it isn't clear to me what the No is. What exactly is he demonstrating that is wrong? How does it relate to "firing your arms through the ball as fast as you can," the subject of this slide?

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There's an inset picture labeled No, but it isn't clear to me what the No is. What exactly is he demonstrating that is wrong? How does it relate to "firing your arms through the ball as fast as you can," the subject of this slide?

Look at the position of the clubhead. I agree it's not very well done, that picture (#4).

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