anyone have experience with an xx shaft?

[sblack5]

Probably a silly question but I was wondering if anyone on the board has experience with an xx stiff shaft (usually rated for swing speeds above 120 mph). If you do have experience, please post what shaft you used and what you thought.

[rebby]

xx-stiff? No, but I have played x100 hardstepped 2x in my irons and x-stiff tipped about 3/8" in my woods. The x100's in my irons were great. They were like point and shoot. Very straight and very low trajectory. I really had to get after them though, x100's hardstepped 2x was honestly too much stiffness for my game. If my swing was off just a little, it showed up right away and wasn't pretty. I was a young kid though, I thought I needed shafts that stiff, at least that's what the guy at the golf shop said (I learned quickly to stop listening to those guys). The x-stiff shafts in my woods were alright too. Lots of control but the feel was off, they were boardy so I went to a softer shaft in those as well.

The truth of the matter is shafts that stiff really don't fit my swing. I have a faster swing speed (roughly 116mph) but I have smooth transition so I really fight to load shafts that stiff. How is your swing speed and transition? Do you need a shaft that stiff?

[max power]

The UST Proforce V2 96 gram Xflex we discussed in another thread might as well be an XXflex. Feels like a solid piece of iron.

[saevel25]

nope, i only go x-stiff, but the shaft i use is a 77gram x-stiff with a very low torque. The sucker is a beast.

[sblack5]

my average swing speed is near or above the 130mph mark. I called UST yesterday and when I told them my situation the guy suggested the axis tour green in an xx flex. My transition is fine. My swing is very long and smooth. I'm not jerky and I don't try to murder it on every swing. I have also talked to harrison about a couple of shafts that they offer, and I'm going to call acccuflex today. they both offer long drive shafts that are strong enough for my swing speed that I could just cut down to length. They guy at UST said that while the 96 gram v2 is a little beefier than my current setup it still probably won't be what I need. I'm going to do some more work on the launch monitor this weekend and make sure that I have things straight before this next week when I get a new shaft.

[golfro]

my average swing speed is near or above the 130mph mark. I called UST yesterday and when I told them my situation the guy suggested the axis tour green in an xx flex. My transition is fine. My swing is very long and smooth. I'm not jerky and I don't try to murder it on every swing. I have also talked to harrison about a couple of shafts that they offer, and I'm going to call acccuflex today. they both offer long drive shafts that are strong enough for my swing speed that I could just cut down to length. They guy at UST said that while the 96 gram v2 is a little beefier than my current setup it still probably won't be what I need. I'm going to do some more work on the launch monitor this weekend and make sure that I have things straight before this next week when I get a new shaft.

130mph???????????????? jesus christ. may i ask for a video recording of your swing? i just wanna see what 130mph swing looks like...

[saevel25]

Well Stiffness might lower the trajectory, but you can get a stiffer shaft and then get a different kick point and get a bit higher trajectory. Its great how you can mess around with the driver shaft and really dial in a driver. Really the key to a driver is the golf shaft.

I like x-stiff with low torque because it takes away lot of the ball spraying away to much. If i had a slight miss then the ball would travel a bit more right on me with a stiff or regular shaft. The x-stiff helped take away the deflection of the club head.

[jamo]

Look at House of Forged. They make Jamie Sadlowski's shafts. They offer their long drive shafts in X, XX, and XXX. They'll run you $200-$300 though.

[Shooter McGreenkeeper]

i tried the fujikura X flex speeder and i round it too rigid
my swing speed is 115.

Acushnet guy told me X flex only for above 120...

i tried to get my swing fast by being silly and stupid and could only manage 117 And i am an animal...
like to see this 130 mph...

[senorchipotle]

you can't avg. 130 mph and not ''try to murder it on every swing.'' either you have at once one of the fastest and smoothest swings on earth, or your numbers are a bit off. so when you really swing out of your shoes, you must be getting somewhere around 145, i reckon?

[Shooter McGreenkeeper]

yeah, error with machine.
its impossible. not even i can manage 120.

[billysandy]

Wow please can we see a vid of the swing! That is faster than most tour players, yeh?

[max power]

Wow please can we see a vid of the swing! That is faster than most tour players, yeh?

Quite a bit faster.

[sblack5]

I'm spending some time on a launch monitor this weekend and probably at the range, and course. I'll see if I can get a video together from behind and down the line. My speed comes from my flexibility and lankiness. I'm 6'4" 190lbs., my arms are 3-4" longer than they should be for my height, the shaft in my driver is 46" long, and I get my shoulders well past the 130 degree mark.

Last weekend I shot on an outdoor launch monitor. 65 shots with the driver and my ballspeed AVERAGED out to 191mph. Low at 186mph and high mark (8 shots) at 197 mph with a smash factor of 1.45 that's 131.xxx mph of clubhead speed.

if the video doesn't happen this weekend, I will definitely try to make it happen this next week. still need a new shaft though.

[golfro]

I'm spending some time on a launch monitor this weekend and probably at the range, and course. I'll see if I can get a video together from behind and down the line. My speed comes from my flexibility and lankiness. I'm 6'4" 190lbs., my arms are 3-4" longer than they should be for my height, the shaft in my driver is 46" long, and I get my shoulders well past the 130 degree mark.

just out of curiosity...wat kinda distance are you getting with that swing speed and 1.45 smash factor? roughly around 350-370 total yards with roll on average?

[sblack5]

I usually can carry anywhere from 291 to 314 with a roll out between 310ish to 340ish at the longest. Problem is that at a lot of the courses I play the fairway runs out due to a dogleg, water, links style fairways, etc.. If I dont have room to swing freely, I'm still usually able to keep it between 260-285. I was at the range this morning with a 10-15 mph headwind and still averaged 280 after the roll out.

My irons are lots of fun to. 150yds and 200yds are the approach distances I try to play to. I can hit the green and hold it from 150 - 155 with a PW 10 out of ten times. I can usually hold a green from 200 yds for a GIR 8 out of ten times with a 7 iron (197 to 208 yd club). My ballspeed with a 7 iron is usually anywhere from 128 to 131 mph

[Williamevanl]

Well I usually carry it anywhere from 314 to 337 with roll out and between 340ish to 370ish at the longest. My problem is that my courses don't have fairway. If I"m not able to swing freely I can keep it between 291 and 314. At the range this morning I created a 10-15 mph headwind with my swing and still averaged 310 after roll out.

My irons are more fun to hit. 200 yards and 250 yards are the approach distances I try to play to. (I like being able to hit a smooth 8 iron in, it's my control club) I can hit the green and hold it from 200 with an 8 iron 12 out of 10 times. I can usually hold a green from 250 with a 6 iron 10 out of 10 times(245-252 yd club). My ballspeed with a six iron is usually anywhere from 151 to 154 mph.

I'm able to do this because I"m shorter 5 8', my arms a couple inches shorter then they should be *for my height* and I'm overweight.

[colin007]

Well I usually carry it anywhere from 314 to 337 with roll out and between 340ish to 370ish at the longest. My problem is that my courses don't have fairway. If I"m not able to swing freely I can keep it between 291 and 314. At the range this morning I created a 10-15 mph headwind with my swing and still averaged 310 after roll out.

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