Jump to content
IGNORED

Video Analysis has changed my game forever


LeviTee
Note: This thread is 4844 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Don't get me wrong - I love my iPhone - but for golf swing analysis it's garbage.

I know I know... I'm holding until XMas to get a proper camera for the job...and that EX-FS10 for 90 bucks on Amazon is a great wishlist item.

I'll have some good stuff to upload then...but no sooner :(
Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • 2 weeks later...
Yeah I bought a JVC GC-FM1 about 2 months ago and it is great. However I am already wanting for more than 60fps. It is usable at the moment cause I am an 18 hdcp with some pretty obvious faults. However I think I will have to pull the trigger on the Casio with 200fps shortly. The biggest problem is that with my swing speed on my downswing I only get one frame when the club is parallel to ground and another around when I hit the ball. So I completly miss my wrists de hinging etc. The other thing is that there is no way to review the swing on the range other than in full speed.

Are you able to go frame by frame on the casio when reviewing the footage? The JVC just has play and stop.

Driver: :tmade: R1 S 10 degree Wood: :ping: G20 3W Hybrid: :nike:Covert Pro 3H
Irons: :tmade: Rocketbladez Tour 4i-AW KBS S SW: :cleveland: CG15 54 degree
LW: :cleveland: CG15 58 degree Putter: :tmade: Corza Ghost Ball: :tmade: Penta

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Administrator
Are you able to go frame by frame on the casio when reviewing the footage? The JVC just has play and stop.

Yeah, you can.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Yeah, you can.

Is that not just depending on which video player you are using? Perhaps video format too.

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
Is that not just depending on which video player you are using? Perhaps video format too.

I've not yet seen a Casio that can't do frame by frame on video it records. Not sure what you're talking about Zeph...???

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Is that not just depending on which video player you are using? Perhaps video format too.

I am talking about on the camera itself. When I am on the range I need to get instant feedback or else I will forgot what I am trying to do next time I go to range (I guess I could be a real nerd and take my laptop!).

That is what I am currently using my iphone for. Seeing as I am trying to rectify some pretty basic and obvious errors the 30fps of the iphone is sufficient. So far the best I have found for that is SP Free. It only lets you have 2 videos in the free version but as far as frame by frame controls goes it is pretty easy to use and instant feedback which is what I like.

Driver: :tmade: R1 S 10 degree Wood: :ping: G20 3W Hybrid: :nike:Covert Pro 3H
Irons: :tmade: Rocketbladez Tour 4i-AW KBS S SW: :cleveland: CG15 54 degree
LW: :cleveland: CG15 58 degree Putter: :tmade: Corza Ghost Ball: :tmade: Penta

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Which slow motion Casio models are you looking at for around $100.00. All I see on the Casio site are around $300.

Driver - Taylor Made 09 Burner.
3 Wood - Callaway Diablo.
Hybrid Irons - Adams A30S
Wedges - 52* Titleist Vokey Spin Milled. 56*, 60* Taylormade Rac.
Putter - Scotty Cameron Circa 62 #1.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


^^^^^^^^^

The EX-FS10 is under $100. Next (and worthwhile, in my opinion) step up is the EX-FC100 at $175 or so.

Stretch.

"In the process of trial and error, our failed attempts are meant to destroy arrogance and provoke humility." -- Master Jin Kwon

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Anyways, I have been working with my golf pro who we sponsor and he keeps telling me what was wrong with my swing. We finally filmed it and watched it and saw what needed to change. I always knew what he was trying to explain to me, but watching it was the icing on the cake. My average drive before was around 240 with a bad fade (almost slice) and now hitting 290-310 with a controlled fade.

Feel isn't real and video is an extremely humbling experience. Kudos to you for looking at your swing in a positive light and making the required adjustments.

Deryck Griffith

Titleist 910 D3: 9.5deg GD Tour AD DI7x | Nike Dymo 3W: 15deg, UST S-flex | Mizuno MP CLK Hybrid: 20deg, Project X Tour Issue 6.5, HC1 Shaft | Mizuno MP-57 4-PW, DG X100 Shaft, 1deg upright | Cleveland CG15 Wedges: 52, 56, 60deg | Scotty Cameron California Del Mar | TaylorMade Penta, TP Black LDP, Nike 20XI-X

Link to comment
Share on other sites


One thing I quickly learned after seeing my swing and all of the changes I needed to make was that I couldn't fix it all at once. At first I would work on two or three things each range session, but my progress was very slow. I have since then gone to working on one thing over a few range sessions and will then hit the video to see if I'm making progress. I have broken out the camera on some of the drills to see if I'm accomplishing what I am aiming for. While you can quickly identify flaws with video, I'm learning that doesn't mean you will fix them faster. You still need to take time to make the change stick before moving on to something else.
In my bag:

Driver: FT-5, 9° stiff
Wood: Big Bertha 3W/5W
Irons: X-20 TourWedges: X Tour 52°/56°Hybrids: Idea Pro 2/3/4Putter: Black Series #2Ball: NXT Extreme/NXT Tour
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

All very well BUT, how do you guys deal with the psychological trauma of seeing yourself for the first time as other golfers see you. Ouch. Reminds me of hearing myself play a musical instrument for the first time. A bit sickening.

I recently bought a cool videocam, HD c hard drive storage and golf-specific function (takes a series of high-speed photos, supposedly better than just the HD video). Haven't used it yet tho'.

Driver: Cobra 460SZ 9.0, med.
3 Wood: Taylor stiff
3-hybrid: Nike 18 deg stiff
4-hybrid:
Taylor RBZ 22 deg regular
Irons:5-9, Mizuno MP30, steel
Wedges: PW, 52, 56, 60 Mizuno MP30
Putter: Odyssey 2-ball

Link to comment
Share on other sites


All very well BUT, how do you guys deal with the psychological trauma of seeing yourself for the first time as other golfers see you. Ouch. Reminds me of hearing myself play a musical instrument for the first time. A bit sickening.

Well, let's be real .... you're probably the only one that doesn't know his swing is ugly yet .... you've already shared it with the rest of the world at numerous occasions

And remember, you shouldn't be using video to rate yourself, you have a scorecard for that. Use video for analysis of issues and feedback during practice.

Titleist AP2 KBS, Vokey Spinmilled, Ping G2, Odessey backstrike

Link to comment
Share on other sites


All very well BUT, how do you guys deal with the psychological trauma of seeing yourself for the first time as other golfers see you.

I was excited. I saw so many areas where I could improve that I actually looked forward to making the changes knowing if I did I would shave at least a few strokes off my game.

SRJ
In my bag:

Driver: FT-5, 9° stiff
Wood: Big Bertha 3W/5W
Irons: X-20 TourWedges: X Tour 52°/56°Hybrids: Idea Pro 2/3/4Putter: Black Series #2Ball: NXT Extreme/NXT Tour
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I know a couple of players who avoid it because they're afraid of what they'll see. I have recordings of their swings which show an obvious flip, but they're in total denial.

whats a "flip"? lol...

Colin P.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

All very well BUT, how do you guys deal with the psychological trauma of seeing yourself for the first time as other golfers see you. Ouch.

I just say no to video...total feel player. The exposure to such images may put me back in the looney bin.

Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Big Tour 15.5*| Rad Tour 18.5*  | Titleist U500 4-23* | T100 5-P | Vokey SM7 50/8* F, 54/10* S, SM8 58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback No. 1 | Vice Pro Plus  

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Well, let's be real .... you're probably the only one that doesn't know his swing is ugly yet .... you've already shared it with the rest of the world at numerous occasions

I use video (extremely rarely) to confirm what I see in the mirror. Plus, if relying on a mirror (or sillouhette/shadow) it's hard to hit certain positions without straining one's neck. Coincidentally, pain is one factor in how I judge my swing. Did it feel like I was generating good clubhead speed and making good contact? Did the ball go in the proper trajectory, direction, and distance? Do I feel any pain after the round or range session? If the answers two those three questions are "yes", "yes", and "no", then all is good.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I just say no to video...total feel player. The exposure to such images may put me back in the looney bin.

You are reinforcing the view of my sub-conscious mind. But your post wrongly implies that I have left said receptacle ....

Driver: Cobra 460SZ 9.0, med.
3 Wood: Taylor stiff
3-hybrid: Nike 18 deg stiff
4-hybrid:
Taylor RBZ 22 deg regular
Irons:5-9, Mizuno MP30, steel
Wedges: PW, 52, 56, 60 Mizuno MP30
Putter: Odyssey 2-ball

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I was excited. I saw so many areas where I could improve that I actually looked forward to making the changes knowing if I did I would shave at least a few strokes off my game.

The voice of the Good Angel ...... maybe.

Driver: Cobra 460SZ 9.0, med.
3 Wood: Taylor stiff
3-hybrid: Nike 18 deg stiff
4-hybrid:
Taylor RBZ 22 deg regular
Irons:5-9, Mizuno MP30, steel
Wedges: PW, 52, 56, 60 Mizuno MP30
Putter: Odyssey 2-ball

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Note: This thread is 4844 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Popular Now

  • Posts

    • Makes sense.  Like I said, I wouldn't have been upset at their original offer either, and based on the fine print it seems like they've held up their end of the deal.  
    • If you've only had to adjust retroactively one time in 8 years and have around 5 people each year without handicaps, that's like 40-50 people total so it sounds like you're doing a pretty good job. I think your questions give enough to go off of. This might be a good way to get new people to actually post a few scores during the 6 weeks leading into the first event. Something like "New members will be eligible for tournament money once they have at least 3 posted rounds in GHIN" or something like that. If they can get 3 rounds in prior to their first event, then they're eligible. If not, they'll soon become eligible after an event or two assuming they play a little bit outside of events.
    • This is a loooooong winded narrative so if you don't like long stories, move on. 😉 Our senior club typically gets about 25 new members each year. We lose about 25 members each year for various reasons (moved to FL/AZ, disabled, dead, too expensive). Of the new members, usually 20 have an active GHIN handicap. About 5 each year do not have a GHIN handicap. When they join our club, we give each member a state association membership that includes GHIN handicapping services. We play a series of handicapped tournaments over the summer. When we sign up a new member who does not have a GHIN handicap, we attempt to give them an estimated index until they have sufficient scores posted to have an actual GHIN index.  Our first event typically is around May 15 so, in theory, a new member has about 6 weeks to post a few scores. Posting season in the Mitten starts April 1. Inevitably, several of the unhandicapped individuals seem  to either not play until the first tournament or can't figure out how to enter scores (hey, they are seniors). That situation then leads to my contacting the new member and asking a series of questions: a. Did you ever have a GHIN handicap? If yes, which State and do you recall what it was? b. Do you have an alternate handicap through a non-GHIN handicap service or a league? c. What do you think your average score was last year (for 9 or 18) d. What was your best score last year? Where did you play and which tee was used? e. What do you consider a very good score for yourself? Based on their responses I attempt to give them an index that makes them competitive in the first couple events BUT does not allow them to win their flight in the first couple events. We don't want the new members to finish last and at the same time, we don't want someone with a "20" playing handicap to win the third flight with a net 57. In the event some new member did shoot a net 57, we also advise everyone that we can and will adjust handicaps retroactively when it is clear to us that a member's handicap does not accurately reflect their potential. We don't like to adjust things retroactively and in the 8 years I have chaired the Handicap Committee, we have only done it once. So here are the questions to the mob: Any ideas how to do this better? Any questions one might ask an unhandicapped individual to better estimate their index/handicap? Would it be reasonable to have a new player play once (or more?) without being eligible to place in the money?
    • Wordle 1,013 4/6 ⬜🟨⬜🟨🟨 ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
    • Awesome! I got that a while back with my start word! Wordle 1,013 4/6 ⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨 ⬜🟨⬜🟩⬜ ⬜⬜🟩🟩🟨 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...