# How much distance is lost in cold weather?

Note: This thread is 3084 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

## Recommended Posts

At first I thought something was wrong with my swing, but then a friend mentioned I could be losing distance because it's cold.  The past few times, I've been going when it's about 45* outside.  My approach shots are coming up short.  Usually from 160 I'm hitting a 7, but I've had to hit 6 and sometimes 5 to get it on or near the green.  I'm really getting frustrated thinking it's my swing.

Could I be losing 10 to 20 yard because it's 45 degrees (F) outside?

##### Share on other sites

Originally Posted by itching4scratch

At first I thought something was wrong with my swing, but then a friend mentioned I could be losing distance because it's cold.  The past few times, I've been going when it's about 45* outside.  My approach shots are coming up short.  Usually from 160 I'm hitting a 7, but I've had to hit 6 and sometimes 5 to get it on or near the green.  I'm really getting frustrated thinking it's my swing.

Could I be losing 10 to 20 yard because it's 45 degrees (F) outside?

Here is the answer straight from my PGA Teaching Manual;

'The temperature of a golf ball affects its ability to rebound from the clubface. The following chart is the approximate influence of temperature on the ball for a shot that would normally carry 220 yards at 75 degree temperature.

Yards --- Temp

226 ------- 105

224 ------- 95

222 ------- 85

220 ------- 75

216 ------- 65

214 ------- 55

205 ------- 45

196 ------- 35

It gives the reasoning of rubber being a poor conductor of heat. So your answer; yes.

##### Share on other sites

Great question and great answer.  I had been wondering the same thing this year...

##### Share on other sites

Good answer, but it reads like that is the temperature of the golf ball itself as it talks about "ability to rebound from the clubface" and "influence of temperature on the ball".     Does the manual also address the additional impact of the increase in air density as temperature decreases?

Originally Posted by chrisutpg

Here is the answer straight from my PGA Teach Manual;

'The temperature of a golf ball affects its ability to rebound from the clubface. The following chart is the approximate influence of temperature on the ball for a shot that would normally carry 220 yards at 75 degree temperature.

Yards --- Temp

226 ------- 105

224 ------- 95

222 ------- 85

220 ------- 75

216 ------- 65

214 ------- 55

205 ------- 45

196 ------- 35

It gives the reasoning of rubber being a poor conductor of heat. So your answer; yes.

##### Share on other sites

What is really odd is that, the distance drops a lot after you go below 65 degrees. However above 75 it does raise that much.

Now, the teaching manual is a bit old. So perhaps the newer balls are better with this. Not positive tho.

##### Share on other sites

Originally Posted by Clambake

Good answer, but it reads like that is the temperature of the golf ball itself as it talks about "ability to rebound from the clubface" and "influence of temperature on the ball".     Does the manual also address the additional impact of the increase in air density as temperature decreases?

Good point. And no it does not. The way I take it; They measured the temp of the ball. Not the outside temp. However this would most likely mean that, at 45 degrees outside, the ball may be below 40 degrees. The rest goes on to talk about how, keeping the ball in your pocket is not enough to warm it up. It also talks about how using a hand warmer to warm it up would be against the rules. It suggests, you keep 4 or 5 golf balls in your house the night before you play and switch them every few holes.

##### Share on other sites

Its not as much as you think, there are other factors that contribute more.. I would say its 1 yard for every 4 degrees...

##### Share on other sites

Quote:

I second that! :)

##### Share on other sites

Originally Posted by Clambake

Good answer, but it reads like that is the temperature of the golf ball itself as it talks about "ability to rebound from the clubface" and "influence of temperature on the ball".     Does the manual also address the additional impact of the increase in air density as temperature decreases?

My guess would be the air density affect from the temperature is almost negligible.  I'd guess altitude would have more an affect on air density than the 60F deg temperature swing from ~100F to ~ 40F.

##### Share on other sites

Being a snowmobile rider as well as a golfer, I can relate to this topic quite well.

You might ask what snowmobiles have to do with this. Well, the carburetors on them have to be jetted for elevation as well as temperature. I've ridden at elevations ranging from 1,300 ft. to 10,000 ft. elevation and 20 below zero to 40 above zero. You develop a pretty good understanding of relative air density when you ride in those extremes.

To keep it short and sweet, elevation changes will effect air density much more than temperature, so it will have more of an effect on the golf ball. Temperature still makes a noticeable difference though.

From my experience, the yards we perceive as being lost in cold temperatures have more to do with our clothing and our bodies being stiffer in cold weather, more than the actual effects of the temperature on the golf ball.

##### Share on other sites

For me, here in the northwest its usually 1 club difference, sometimes 2.

##### Share on other sites

All of these factors are playing a role in your distance, cold weather clothing, cold golf balls, tight muscles, dense air...

Get yourself some techy base layer stuff to wear in the cold, that will help. Also, get yourself some of those hot-hands handwarmers and stuff one in your pocket with a ball or two and rotate in a warm one on every hole. Even then you will still probably be at least a club short in 45 degrees or less... from my experience anyway.

##### Share on other sites

Note: This thread is 3084 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

## Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×

• ### Topics Being Discussed Right Now on The Sand Trap

• #### "5 Minutes Daily" Practice Challenge 2018-19 1 2 3 4 264

By iacas, in Instruction and Playing Tips

• 4,738 replies
• 211,032 views
• #### Your Golf Game - The Uplifting Topic 1 2 3 4 14

By iacas, in Golf Talk

• 234 replies
• 47,115 views
• #### Combine PGA and LPGA Tour Events? 1 2

By Braivo, in Tour Talk

• 26 replies
• 771 views
• #### Practicing Wrong? 1 2

By ALong17, in Instruction and Playing Tips

• 26 replies
• 597 views
• #### How Many Pure Shots per Round? 1 2 3 4 5

By iacas, in Golf Talk

• 72 replies
• 1,513 views

• Want to join this community?

We'd love to have you!

• ## 2019 TST Partners

• ### Posts

• Day 432 30 minutes with the putter, primarily working on hitting the ball squarely and through the putt.  Have too much of a habit of not continuing through. Greens were a bit difficult for me today, the course changed the locations of the holes on the practice green and I could not simply trust memory.
• Played yesterday with a buddy at a course I haven't played in a while. It's under new management and the conditions have improved somewhat, although I could hardly imagine them getting any worse. The last outfit was an absolute disaster! Anyway, I shot 40-42=82 for the round and left the course kind of disappointed.  After the 40 on the front, the way I started the back made me hopeful that I could shoot in the 30's and break 80 for the second time this season. That hasn't happened in a while! That was until I totally butchered the par 5, 17th. Hit a not so good drive in the left rough, but not far enough to reach the lake that runs down most of the left side and wraps around behind the green. Instead of taking my medicine I tried a hero shot and dunked it in the drink! I dropped and then took my medicine. This still left me only a partial wedge to the green, I had the pitch going dead at the flag, but hit it a little too hard and it went over. I was lucky it stopped about a foot from the water or it could have been much worse. I chip on and 2 putt for an 8!  So I'm kicking myself pretty good after the round. This morning, sitting at the kitchen table with my coffee and sports talk on the radio, I started thinking about the round again. And I came to a different conclusion. After that yack job on 17 it would have been easy to give up. But I went to 18 tee and hit one of the better drives I've hit it in a while. According to the GPS it was 257 yards. May not sound like much to some, but I'm 67 now and have been working hard to regain some of my lost distance. I was tired of a "good drive" being 220! 93 yards to the flag and I stick a wedge 10 feet away hole high, graze the left edge of the cup with the birdie putt leaving myself a 6" tap in for par.  I was able to put my blow up hole in the rear view mirror and play the next hole the way I wanted to. That's not always easy to do. My buddy's Son lets a bad hole, or even a bad shot get to him. His attitude and game go right in the crapper!  Golf gives you a chance to do better 18 times a round! Not many games like that. I can't wait to get out again!
• The greens at Pinehurst for the 2014 Opens were bent grass, and they did slow them down a foot for the women.  I played it the Saturday after the women's open and there were no issues with the turf conditions, you could hardly tell where the crosswalks were.  Two days after I played they ripped out the bent and grew in the Bermuda.
• On another note. Another type of practice is getting familiar with different shots. Trouble shots, or other wise. The more, different shots a golfer has in their bag, the better player they will be. Better players shoot lower scores.   Shots like hitting from the rough, from under trees, uneven lies, thin lies, hitting out of a fairway divot, and what ever else we golfers can think of. Got carry a 100 yards over water? Fake the water hazard, while thinking it's actually there.  We all practice the easy shots, but sometimes forget to learn something about the tougher shots we encounter.  Also, and I think it was Mr. Hogan who said that during competition, he rarely, if ever, hit a shot that he had not practiced, or was unfamiliar with.  A guy in Oregon came up with, and marketed a flash card system to use on the driving range. What ever the shot the card listed, that was what you would hit. Found out he started out with blank index cards, and hand wrote the various shot discriptions. I bought a set of them from the Fiddler's Green GC. It was fun using them. Made you think about a few things in between shots.  Still have them....some where.  Make practice fun.
• I shot an 89 the other day and feel like it was 7-9.  I'm feeling optimistic.  😉

• ### Today's Birthdays

1. bkuehn1952
(67 years old)
2. Bryan Kasper
(27 years old)
3. Greg Pickett Golf
(64 years old)
4. hobecorning
(77 years old)

×
×
• Create New...

## Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...