Jump to content
IGNORED

Stiff Shaft Drivers


Note: This thread is 4678 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

If you can hit your 3 wood around 300 yards or your 1 iron 275 yards consistently, there is no reason you need a driver in the bag to get your handicap down to a 3 or 4. I'd assume that you need more help in your short game than trying to get longer off the tee.

Do you pace out your yardages from tee box to the ball to know how far you are hitting your clubs? I'd love to see a video of someone hitting a 1 iron 275 yards. Definitely would be a sight to see.

« Keith »

Link to comment
Share on other sites


My driver swing speed is 107, and I can only hit a 300 yd drive in perfect conditions, with my driver. I am right on the edge of a stiff or extra stiff shaft for it. X is 110 plus on the particular  shaft I have.

Your desire to change has to be greater than your desire to stay the same.

Link to comment
Share on other sites




Originally Posted by wrx_junki

I'd love to see a video of someone hitting a 1 iron 275 yards. Definitely would be a sight to see.


I have an old 2 iron, that I can hit 220-225 ...... and that is a really nice shot to see for the average mid-capper (of course it can also be bumping along the fairway right from the start ...... )

Cal Razr Hawk 10.5 | TM Superfast 3W | Adams Idea Pro Black 20 | MP-68 3-PW | TW9 50/06 + 58/12 | Ram Zebra Putter

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Originally Posted by Tifosinumerouno

My driver swing speed is 107, and I can only hit a 300 yd drive in perfect conditions, with my driver. I am right on the edge of a stiff or extra stiff shaft for it. X is 110 plus on the particular  shaft I have.


I am about sure that some of the Pro's hitting 330-340 have a similar swing speed, so you can still improve a bit !!!

Cal Razr Hawk 10.5 | TM Superfast 3W | Adams Idea Pro Black 20 | MP-68 3-PW | TW9 50/06 + 58/12 | Ram Zebra Putter

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Not Really. According to pgatour.com, a couple of the guys who I have similar speed to, Zach Johnson, and Jerry Kelly, only average around 250-255 yds of carry. Their long carry is only 275 and 268, respectively. JB Holmes is the highest average, around 128 mph, and 311 yds of carry.

Your desire to change has to be greater than your desire to stay the same.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


And I mean not really that the tour swingers that hit 330-340 have my speed, not that I can't still improve. Just to be clear.

Your desire to change has to be greater than your desire to stay the same.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Originally Posted by Tifosinumerouno

Not Really. According to pgatour.com, a couple of the guys who I have similar speed to, Zach Johnson, and Jerry Kelly, only average around 250-255 yds of carry. Their long carry is only 275 and 268, respectively. JB Holmes is the highest average, around 128 mph, and 311 yds of carry.



The numbers on pgatour.com are total driving distance, not carry. JB hits it 311 with roll on average, Zach hit it 269 total. The average carry on the pgatour was 269 in 2009 I think. The average total distance so far in 2011 is 285 yards.

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Well my driver swing speed is 100 mph. A good draw gets me 290-295 yards. I think of my average drive as a 265-270 yard shot. I play a Ping I15 witha a fade bias and a stiff shaft. By the way how many pound/kg to a stone?

Ping I15 Driver, Ping i20 3 Wood & i20 Hybrid 3 Iron
Mizuno MP60 4-PW Irons
Vokey Spin Milled 52, 56 & 60 Degree Wedges
Odyssey Black Putter
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I think I need a new driver or something. My swingspeed is 105-110, and I hit it 210 to 250 yards, all measured with rangefinder.

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades



Originally Posted by Zeph

I think I need a new driver or something. My swingspeed is 105-110, and I hit it 210 to 250 yards, all measured with rangefinder.



I suspect you either need a new driver or better launch conditions. There's more to hitting a long drive than swing speed.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

Link to comment
Share on other sites




Originally Posted by adhughesie

Thanks lads for the help.... getting some good insights.

Im not 100% sure on the swing speed but in comparion withothers (who have been tested)  it is above 95!


Above 95 is vague ( and not NEAR enough to hit a 300 yard 3 wood )...to hit a 300 yard 3 wood you'd be sitting around 125ish....about where Tiger is.....so um....yeah.

:tmade: SLDR X-Stiff 12.5°
:nike:VRS Covert 3 Wood Stiff
:nike:VRS Covert 3 Hybrid Stiff
:nike:VR Pro Combo CB 4 - PW Stiff 2° Flat
:cleveland:588RTX CB 50.10 GW
:cleveland:588RTX CB 54.10 SW
:nike:VR V-Rev 60.8 LW
:nike:Method 002 Putter

Link to comment
Share on other sites


very highly doubt your swing speed is around 95 and you hit a 3 wood 300yds.

:cobra: Speed ld-f 10.5 Stiff
:snake_eyes: 3 & 5 Woods
:adams:A4 3 hybrid
:bridgestone: J33 Forged Irons 4-pw
:ping: 50th Aniv. Karsten Ansr Putter56*, 60* wedges

Link to comment
Share on other sites



Originally Posted by adhughesie

Ok so it must be my imagination!!!

Why is it so hard to believe??

As i said, i am 23, 5'11, 13.7 stone an ex rugby player and can one rep max in bench press is 125kg, therefore by general standards I would be strong.

If I was asking for help and advice on a forum, why the hell would i lie???? To boost my ego in front of people i dont know??

Also i greatly appreciate all of the advice that I am getting.



You realize that strength has no effect on how far you can hit a ball? While it may help a little bit the only thing that could create enough swing speed to hit a 3 wood 300 yards would be extremely fast hands (tour speed). If you swung that fast with a regular shaft you would hit such a massive hook that you would have to aim way right.

Now you're saying you hit a 3 wood 300 yards? Are the fairways where you play composed of concrete or something??

Link to comment
Share on other sites




Originally Posted by JD616

You realize that strength has no effect on how far you can hit a ball? While it may help a little bit the only thing that could create enough swing speed to hit a 3 wood 300 yards would be extremely fast hands (tour speed). If you swung that fast with a regular shaft you would hit such a massive hook that you would have to aim way right.

Now you're saying you hit a 3 wood 300 yards? Are the fairways where you play composed of concrete or something??


You can say with complete certainty that nobody could hit a 300 yard drive with a regular shafted driver?

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Man everyone hits there 3-wood with regular shafts 300 yards consistently on the internet.

As a matter of fact, with my old 3-wood(which coincidentally had a regular shaft), I was EASILY putting em out there 310 when the fairways were running slow and sometimes 350 when the ground hardened up a bit!!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Originally Posted by sean_miller

I suspect you either need a new driver or better launch conditions. There's more to hitting a long drive than swing speed.



Yeah, I know, I'm working on it. Getting fit for a driver in any way soon, I don't like the one I have now, sounds terrible.

What is a bit weird is that I hit my 3 woods as far on a good strike. But OK, this thread is not about me, sorry.

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I currently hit my persimmon, hickory shafted 3 wood about 330 average. Do yall think a newer stiff shaft will get me more distance?

:cobra: Speed ld-f 10.5 Stiff
:snake_eyes: 3 & 5 Woods
:adams:A4 3 hybrid
:bridgestone: J33 Forged Irons 4-pw
:ping: 50th Aniv. Karsten Ansr Putter56*, 60* wedges

Link to comment
Share on other sites




Originally Posted by kennay92

I currently hit my persimmon, hickory shafted 3 wood about 330 average. Do yall think a newer stiff shaft will get me more distance?



Better go X flex, bro! My persimmon was a quaint little thing until I put a high dollar X flex shaft in it. Now avg carry is at least 330. You should see it when I hit it "too pure". Bubba Watson cried himself to sleep after seeing me drive it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Note: This thread is 4678 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • Day 119: 4/24/24 Chipping and pitching followed by putting through 50 mm gates.
    • @boogielicious and I are definitely in for the Stay & Play and will need the extra night's stay on Friday. I don't know what the plans are for our group on Friday but even if we don't make it for dinner with the rest of the Friday arrivals, I'll be more than happy to meet up somewhere for a beer or something.
    • Taking your dispersion and distance in consideration I analyzed the 4 posible ways to play the hole, or at least the ones that were listed here. I took the brown grass on the left as fescue were you need to punch out sideways to the fairway and rigth of the car path to be fescue too.  Driver "going for the green"  You have to aim more rigth, to the bunker in order to center your shotzone in between the fescue.  Wood of 240 over the bunkers I already like this one more for you. More room to land between the fescue. Balls in the fescue 11% down from 30% with driver. Improve of score from 4.55 to 4.40. 4 iron 210 yards besides the bunkers.    Also a wide area and your shot zone is better than previous ones. This makes almost the fescue dissapear. You really need to hit a bad one (sometimes shit happens). Because of that and only having 120 yards in this is the best choice so far. Down to 4.32 from 4.40. Finally the 6 Iron 180 yards to avoid all trouble.    Wide area an narrow dispersion for almost been in the fairway all the time. Similar than the previous one but 25 yards farther for the hole to avoid been in the bunkers. Average remains the same, 4.33 to 4.32.  Conclusion is easy. Either your 4iron or 6 iron of the tee are equaly good for you. Glad that you made par!
    • Wish I could have spent 5 minutes in the middle of the morning round to hit some balls at the range. Just did much more of right side through with keeping the shoulders feeling level (not dipping), and I was flushing them. Lol. Maybe too much focus on hands stuff while playing.
    • Last year I made an excel that can easily measure with my own SG data the average score for each club of the tee. Even the difference in score if you aim more left or right with the same club. I like it because it can be tweaked to account for different kind of rough, trees, hazards, greens etc.     As an example, On Par 5's that you have fescue on both sides were you can count them as a water hazard (penalty or punch out sideways), unless 3 wood or hybrid lands in a wider area between the fescue you should always hit driver. With a shorter club you are going to hit a couple less balls in the fescue than driver but you are not going to offset the fact that 100% of the shots are going to be played 30 or more yards longer. Here is a 560 par 5. Driver distance 280 yards total, 3 wood 250, hybrid 220. Distance between fescue is 30 yards (pretty tight). Dispersion for Driver is 62 yards. 56 for 3 wood and 49 for hybrid. Aiming of course at the middle of the fairway (20 yards wide) with driver you are going to hit 34% of balls on the fescue (17% left/17% right). 48% to the fairway and the rest to the rough.  The average score is going to be around 5.14. Looking at the result with 3 wood and hybrid you are going to hit less balls in the fescue but because of having longer 2nd shots you are going to score slightly worst. 5.17 and 5.25 respectively.    Things changes when the fescue is taller and you are probably going to loose the ball so changing the penalty of hitting there playing a 3 wood or hybrid gives a better score in the hole.  Off course 30 yards between penalty hazards is way to small. You normally have 60 or more, in that cases the score is going to be more close to 5 and been the Driver the weapon of choice.  The point is to see that no matter how tight the hole is, depending on the hole sometimes Driver is the play and sometimes 6 irons is the play. Is easy to see that on easy holes, but holes like this:  you need to crunch the numbers to find the best strategy.     
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...