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Two quick points...

Originally Posted by JetFan1983

So please stop blaming religion when really you have a problem with some aspects of humanity. Let's not displace our anger. People should be allowed to practice and believe whatever they want to believe, as long as it doesn't harm another person.

I think some would say that there's a difference between "blaming" and turning on a golf tournament and being proselytized. Others would agree that talking about God (or religion) in a post-victory speech isn't really proselytizing, but it's still annoying.

Me, again, I don't watch the victory speeches. Never interested me.

Originally Posted by Harmonious

Were you referring to the 30 second congratulatory hug between him and Ben Crane, on reaching the playoff?

FWIW, I think MBD watched different coverage. If so, he could be talking about an entirely different part.

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Originally Posted by MiniBlueDragon

I'd never heard of Webb before watching him in a tourney a few days ago. I watched for about 20 minutes and not only was he talking religion, his playing partner was, they apparently went to bible school together, even the commentators were talking religion and how it helps some people play better.

I tuned in to watch golf and listen to golf talk so I turned it off.



I agree with you. It was all religion talk which is an instant turn-off. Like a girl with facial hair. Although I have to say, my Aunt Mavis is a lovely person.

Why are Simpson, Crane etc. incapable of stringing two sentences together without mentioning God? I almost threw up when Crane said, "God flooded me with peace today". Keep it to yourselves guys.

Interestingly, Spanish TV always translates the interviews into Spanish pretty much word for word, however they never translate any of the religious references. Not even a "Gracias Dios".

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Originally Posted by iacas

Two quick points...

I think some would say that there's a difference between "blaming" and turning on a golf tournament and being proselytized. Others would agree that talking about God (or religion) in a post-victory speech isn't really proselytizing, but it's still annoying.



I understand that point of view. I used to be like that. I was really bad with it. I guess now I realize I'm getting worked up over nothing. Webb's not about to grab a broad sword and some chain mail and go invade the Holy Land anytime soon, so I'll just accept it. Plus, whenever I hear someone thank god now after a golf tournament, I'm going to chuckle and think of Shorty running outside his house and kicking the nearest kangaroo out of anger

I kid, Shorty, I kid....

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Plus, whenever I hear someone thank god now after a golf tournament, I'm going to chuckle and think of Shorty running outside his house and kicking the nearest kangaroo out of anger

I kid, Shorty, I kid....

That made this entire thread worthwhile. :-D

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Originally Posted by iacas

FWIW, I think MBD watched different coverage. If so, he could be talking about an entirely different part.


This. In the UK I was watching the Sky Sports coverage of the event. For all I know the 20 mins I watched could have been the sole time anything was said but for me it was enough to decide my time would be better spent elsewhere.

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Why would we kick our kangaroos? we need them to bring back food from the supermarket

Originally Posted by JetFan1983

I understand that point of view. I used to be like that. I was really bad with it. I guess now I realize I'm getting worked up over nothing. Webb's not about to grab a broad sword and some chain mail and go invade the Holy Land anytime soon, so I'll just accept it. Plus, whenever I hear someone thank god now after a golf tournament, I'm going to chuckle and think of Shorty running outside his house and kicking the nearest kangaroo out of anger

I kid, Shorty, I kid....



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LOL. I was just taking the piss. Kangaroos are like a national pest in rural areas. They are a pain in the arse on a golf course too when they crap everywhere and damage greens etc

Originally Posted by JetFan1983

I love Australia. I was 100% joking, MJ. I hope that didn't offend you and if it did, I really apologize.



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We have that too here except they come in the form of Canadian geese. Once again, I blame sean miller and Kieran for all my problems

And somehow we went from talking about Webb Simpson to the existence of God to poo. I blame myself for being the off-topic guy.

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They're "Canada Geese" not "Canadian Geese". And if those birds are your only problem, then I envy you.

Originally Posted by JetFan1983

We have that too here except they come in the form of Canadian geese. Once again, I blame sean miller and Kieran for all my problems

And somehow we went from talking about Webb Simpson to the existence of God to poo. I blame myself for being the off-topic guy.



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Originally Posted by sean_miller

They're "Canada Geese" not "Canadian Geese".

Ahhh, thanks for that. Named after John Canada, not the country. I learn something new every day.


Originally Posted by sean_miller

And if those birds are your only problem, then I envy you.

I do alright

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For some reason I get the urge to kick up this testy old thread with a new spin on the issue:

Psychological and neuroscience research seems to support the idea that humans are inherently and naturally good. (It's not proven yet - not that any theory is ever really "proven" - but there is some substantial support for the idea.  Type "self-determination theory into Google Scholar for a starting point.)  Basically, the theory is that if a person is mentally healthy and has grown up and lives in a healthy environment, then he or she is likely to engage in a lifestyle that fits in with what are generally considered good morals.  It's a powerful theory that has explanatory and predictive power for all sorts of situations, and it is my unprofessional opinion that future research will help us understand this issue in more detail while still generally supporting the idea that people are inherently good.

So, to me, if someone is religious, often they will effectively be putting the word "God" where I believe the words "healthy intrinsic motivation" are more appropriate.  For example, if someone is going through some hard times, he or she might try to hold onto the idea of "being guided by God" or something like that as a way of trying to stick to good morals - self determination theory would say that the person is struggling to keep his or her healthy intrinsic motivation intact in spite of some factors that are compromising his or her core psychological needs for autonomy, competence, and relatedness.

Bottom line, science seems to indicate that people are inherently good.

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What I find tired about Shorty's point of view, is that aethists predictably convey the vibe of being intellectual and 100% convinced beyond any shadow of a doubt that there's absolutely no possibility for a higher power.     When a few billion people (they see as non-thinking lemmings) disagree, logic would dictate they wouldn't take such a hard line stance ...



Please don't lump the rest of us athiests in with Shorty. I didn't think my opinion of him/her could get much lower but 2 pages in and I am stumped at the fact that anyone has an ounce of respect for this person.

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Originally Posted by Grumpter

Please don't lump the rest of us athiests in with Shorty. I didn't think my opinion of him/her could get much lower but 2 pages in and I am stumped at the fact that anyone has an ounce of respect for this person.

That might well be saying more about you than it does me, I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Shorty

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Originally Posted by Grumpter

Please don't lump the rest of us athiests in with Shorty. I didn't think my opinion of him/her could get much lower but 2 pages in and I am stumped at the fact that anyone has an ounce of respect for this person.

That might well be saying more about you than it does me, I'm afraid.

I'm not convinced you even exist, so respect doesn't actually enter the equation.

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

I'm not convinced you even exist, so respect doesn't actually enter the equation.

Yes, but you can imagine me.

I'm not wearing robes, I don't live in the sky, but I am very merciful.

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