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The controversial New Zealand caddie had been asked on stage, during a dinner at the HSBC Champions in Shanghai, to explain his notorious gloating celebration after Adam Scott’s win at Akron in August. He replied, in reference to Woods : “My aim was to shove it right up that black --------.”

The remark by Williams left the audience of players, caddies and sponsors aghast. While the occasion had been intended as a light-hearted celebration of the ‘caddie of the year’ award, Williams’ comment was uniformly seen as beyond the pale and escalated his bitter sniping at Woods to a new level.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/tigerwoods/8871268/Tiger-Woods-former-caddie-Steve-Williams-shocks-the-world-of-golf-with-racist-insult-about-former-employer.html

I wonder if the people who were so critical of Tiger for not firing Stevie for his past indiscretions will be equally critical of Adam Scott if he doesn't fire Stevie after this.

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Stevie is a legend in his own mind...he needs to be reminded that he did not win a single tournament-much less 14 majors... Since Stevie revels in receiving awards... Adam Scott should g

i think it qualifies as racism, albeit vaguely.  my thinking on it is, okay, when you're mad (as stevie obviously is) and you're talking smack about the person who made you mad, you aren't going to us

There was a great sledge from the gallery at the Aussie Open yesterday: "Hey Adam! You gonna put a muzzle on that sheep, mate?"

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Originally Posted by turtleback

I wonder if the people who were so critical of Tiger for not firing Stevie for his past indiscretions will be equally critical of Adam Scott if he doesn't fire Stevie after this.


Probably not.

Oh, and if I were Adam Scott, I might just say "I don't agree with or like what Stevie said, but he's his own guy and so long as his on-course performance isn't affected, and mine isn't affected, he's my caddie."

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That guy needs to keep his mouth shut! He's a real moron who thinks he's some kind of celebrity.  Just carry the bag and pace the yardage, let the players do the talking.

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he can say what he wants about tiger, i mean after all he carried tiger through most of his wins, tiger was nothing without him, he taught tiger everything he knows, tiger wouldnt have even been a professional golfer without him, i mean its not as if he's been the luckiest caddie of all time being on the bag of the best player of all time.......oh yeah wait, tiger was only good because of him, i forgot!

What A Dick!

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Would it have been better to say "My aim was to shove it right up that cablanasian ---------"?

What word was bleeped out?   Ass? Bastard? Motherf**ker? Gentleman?

Not a Williams fan, but racist?  Don't think so.

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Williams may well be a racist idiot, the evidence looks fairly convincing.  It also looks like rather than being fired he probably told Woods to take a long walk off a short pier.  For as much media access as Tiger has, Williams has revealed a powerful motive to call it quits with Tiger.

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Would it have been better to say "My aim was to shove it right up that cablanasian ---------"? What word was bleeped out?   Ass? Bastard? Motherf**ker? Gentleman?  Not a Williams fan, but racist?  Don't think so.

Pretty sure it was arsehole (not ass hole, arsehole).

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You call someone black you're racist. A black man calls a caucasian 'white' and its ok. Society is way too PC these days. Sure williams is an idiot, but calling someone black doesn't mean you're a racist. After all Tiger Woods is dark skinned.

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Originally Posted by michaeljames92

You call someone black you're racist. A black man calls a caucasian 'white' and its ok. Society is way too PC these days. Sure williams is an idiot, but calling someone black doesn't mean you're a racist. After all Tiger Woods is dark skinned.



imo it definitely comes across as racist when there is no need for it,

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imo it definitely comes across as racist when there is no need for it,





So much for off the record! I can see what you're saying, why point out he's black, but as far as racism goes this is pretty mild. It also seems like it could be taken a little out of context, it was a roast like event.

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That's Eric Cartman's go-to insult. He's not exactly someone you want to have anything in common with...unless it's hating hippies.

JK.

But seriously, I think this comes off as pretty bad. And if not bad, then awkward. Call me sensitive or whatever. I'd be pretty embarrassed if he was my caddy. I'm not sure what I would do. I'm interested to see the various reactions over this. If Al Sharpton says it's cool then I'm okay with it.

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Originally Posted by Harmonious

Would it have been better to say "My aim was to shove it right up that cablanasian ---------"?

What word was bleeped out?   Ass? Bastard? Motherf**ker? Gentleman?

Not a Williams fan, but racist?  Don't think so.



I know, why can't they just print the whole comment, whatever it was? Tasteless, yes definitely. Racist, I'm not sure.

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Does Steve Williams drink? These seems like the actions of a drinker to me. But I doubt the guy has any sort of contract....so it's in his best interest to keep his racy comments to himself.

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While I'm the first to agree the world is too PC these days the point Williams was making had nothing to do with Tigers skin color.  If he was referring to Scott I highly doubt he'd said "white _________".  The fact he felt the need to state black IMO shows a bit of hostility towards Tiger and slight racist tendencies.

Originally Posted by michaeljames92

You call someone black you're racist. A black man calls a caucasian 'white' and its ok. Society is way too PC these days. Sure williams is an idiot, but calling someone black doesn't mean you're a racist. After all Tiger Woods is dark skinned.



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Originally Posted by turtleback

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I wonder if the people who were so critical of Tiger for not firing Stevie for his past indiscretions will be equally critical of Adam Scott if he doesn't fire Stevie after this.


You are suggesting that we are supposeed to expect Scott to fire Williams and we should be critical of him if he doesn't?

What planet are you from?

It sounds as if you are going to accuse people of being hypocrits if they don't get on Scott's case if he doesn't fire Williams.

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Stevies comment was directed at Tiger and wasn't said while performing his job for Scott.  Scott has no reason to fire him unless he decides he doesn't want a loose cannon for a caddie, but that's unlikely since he knew what Stevie was before he hired him.

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