Robert Rock Golf Swing

[iacas]

Funny bit from Charlie Wi here when someone mentions Robert Rock and Charlie forgets the question because he's thinking about how good Rock's swing is.

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by iacas

Funny bit from Charlie Wi here when someone mentions Robert Rock and Charlie forgets the question because he's thinking about how good Rock's swing is.

That's hilarious!  You know Charlie has had a few conversations with Andy about Rock

[mlbruce]

Thanks for this analysis. Love this stuff!! Very glad I started an account here. I've been reading the reviews/analysis for years...

[gmbtempe]

Big difference with the right shoulder IM0, one more draw based and one more fade based.

[mvmac]

Here's a recent one with a little commentary by Dana

[Stretch]

He has masking tape down the middle of his back to show his spine action, doesn't he? OMG so, so golf nerdy!

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Stretch

He has masking tape down the middle of his back to show his spine action, doesn't he? OMG so, so golf nerdy!

There's a chance it might be the design of the shirt. :-)

[Stretch]

That's what I thought at first, but it looks like it ends an inch or so above the belt. Hard to tell for sure. Either way, marvelously illustrative!

[bunkerputt]

Originally Posted by Stretch

That's what I thought at first, but it looks like it ends an inch or so above the belt. Hard to tell for sure. Either way, marvelously illustrative!

And it shows how well he maintains his tape level in the downswing.

[miami8miami]

I've watched Robert rock hit hundreds of golf balls at doral this year. His swing is silky smooth to say the least. He hits a mid trajectory cp cut. About a one yard pull fade with EVERY CLUB IN HIS BAG. I watched him on the front nine on sunay this year and he was 5 under through 7 holes until he doubled 8. As you would think with a cp cut pattern, distanc is not his forte. According to that chart earlier in this thread he's lost distance every year since 2006. How do you think he adjusts to hitting driver? His attack angle has to be too negative for optimal launch conditions. While he was playing, I noticed that downwind with a left to right wind he flat out bombs it, he hit multiple 330 yard drives with the wind at his back or a left to right one. However, into the wind he hits it nowhere relative to the other guys on your. He hit one 260 and another 265. It think that he plays to his strength, which is probably short irons, and wedges. He isn't what I would call a big guy, probably 5 10, maybe 5 1,1 6 feet. So again, what do you think he can do to increase his driving distance while maintaining one fantastic alignments? Physical fitness? Setup changes?

[miami8miami]

I wouldn't be surprised if tiger and Sean foley are slowly working towards a swing that resembles Robert Rock's, with a little more of parametric acceleration.

[LuciusWooding]

Originally Posted by miami8miami

I've watched Robert rock hit hundreds of golf balls at doral this year. His swing is silky smooth to say the least. He hits a mid trajectory cp cut. About a one yard pull fade with EVERY CLUB IN HIS BAG.

I watched him on the front nine on sunay this year and he was 5 under through 7 holes until he doubled 8.

As you would think with a cp cut pattern, distanc is not his forte. According to that chart earlier in this thread he's lost distance every year since 2006.

How do you think he adjusts to hitting driver? His attack angle has to be too negative for optimal launch conditions. While he was playing, I noticed that downwind with a left to right wind he flat out bombs it, he hit multiple 330 yard drives with the wind at his back or a left to right one. However, into the wind he hits it nowhere relative to the other guys on your. He hit one 260 and another 265. It think that he plays to his strength, which is probably short irons, and wedges. He isn't what I would call a big guy, probably 5 10, maybe 5 1,1 6 feet.

So again, what do you think he can do to increase his driving distance while maintaining one fantastic alignments? Physical fitness? Setup changes?

Rock has a swing built on consistency, and hits his driver like his irons. It's not great for distance but hitting up at a teed ball, driving with his legs, and going through the ball with more power, combined with appropriate equipment, would make his drives much longer. Watch Bubba squat and jump through the ball, he shows that move more than most. With the wind, obviously a high cut with more backspin will get out there, but he gets hurt into the wind more. Most pros hit 300+ yard drives a fair bit of the time, when they have a downhill tee shot with a helping wind and fast fairways. Watch the pros play Kapalua sometime, that course has some 600 yard par 5s but many players can think about reaching them. Guys like DJ and Bubba can get over 360 on holes like that in the right conditions.

He could move towards optimal launch, but it would be a totally different setup and swing and would throw off his timing versus having a single method. He chooses to go with what he's doing because he doesn't need the distance and can't afford to lose consistency. He's choosing to play a simpler game and that's why his swing is so grooved.

[miami8miami]

i agree completely. He's picking apart golf courses by throwing darts at pins.

Maybe its a different part of his game thats keeping him from bigger things...

[mvmac]

Rock's been working on changing the things to help get his driver numbers better.  CP does not work for a driver.  From what I've heard from former MORAD guys, Mac never CP'd a driver, some say he never played a CP pattern in tournaments.  Set-up adjustments would be to play the ball much further forward and align the baseline more to the right.  I think his biggest weakness is that he hits it too low for most of the American courses.  CP isn't a reliable pattern for today's equipment.  Looks great, absolutely but not practical.

[miami8miami]

Why wouldn't it be practical? i think you can play great golf as robert rock has shown, so has Hunter Mahan. Maybe Robert Rock just deals with the fact that he'll only hit his driver 280, 285. with no wind, which i wouldnt mind.

[x129]

Looking at the eurotour stats, it looks like he is an average putter and scrambler. And for a guy with his distance you would expect slightly better driver accuracy.   Give him Luke Donald's putting and short game and he would be a world top 10 guy.

Originally Posted by miami8miami

i agree completely. He's picking apart golf courses by throwing darts at pins.

Maybe its a different part of his game thats keeping him from bigger things...

[LuciusWooding]

Originally Posted by x129

Looking at the eurotour stats, it looks like he is an average putter and scrambler. And for a guy with his distance you would expect slightly better driver accuracy.   Give him Luke Donald's putting and short game and he would be a world top 10 guy.

Well, that's true of almost any player. Luke Donald himself is actually quite mediocre at driving and ballstriking and he'd never keep his card without his inhuman short game, yet has been #1 or #2 in the world for most of the last year.

[mvmac]