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pixel5 Well Established Member

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My vote is for the 588. I'd buy one or two more in 60* and 51* if I could find em in chrome. The vokey swing weight bothers me. They are very different in that respect.

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Driver - Cobra S3 9.5* - Mitsubishi Rayon JavlnFX M7 
Fwy - Titleist 904F 18*
Irons - Mizuno MP-14
Wedges - Cleveland 588 54*, Ping Tour 58*
Putter - Ping D66 (iWi)

 

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Domenic Dedicated Member

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I literally made this EXACT SAME thread, and got verbally raped by Shorty. Good luck if he responds.

"It's better to burn out than to fade away." -Kurt Cobain

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Golfingdad Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by Domenic

I literally made this EXACT SAME thread, and got verbally raped by Shorty. Good luck if he responds.

I don't think you're a real part of the TST community until you get scolded by him for something seemingly innocent like this.  It's sort of his way of saying welcome.

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newtogolf Incredible Member

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No one has mentioned the word "forged" or discussed the superior feel of forged wedges over cast wedges so he's still in alert mode.

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Domenic Dedicated Member

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oh I see........well he must really like me cuz I got his special ceremony like 6 times. Anyways, either one is fine. SM4 got perfect score on GD thouh

"It's better to burn out than to fade away." -Kurt Cobain

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WUTiger Incredible Member

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Any chance you can go to an outdoor demo day? Went to one two weekends ago.

Tried the 588s and the Callaway Forged. Both are excellent wedge models. The 588 Forged in 56.16 was wild - you could really go after the ball on a half-wedge and get super loft and check-spin. Felt really smooth, and less grabby (turf hang-up) than CG14 on shots hit less than perfect.

Personally, I never have cared for the Vokey line. Technically they are superb and offer a lot of variety, but they just feel odd.

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ApocG10 Great Member

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Go with forged, the feel and sound is far, far superior to cast.

Seriously though, the 588's are fantastic, and by far the best non custom wedges I have ever hit.

In the Ogio Kingpin bag:

Titleist 913 D2 9.5* w/ UST Mamiya ATTAS 3 80 w/ Harrison Shotmaker & Billy Bobs afternarket Hosel Adaptor (get this if you don't have it for your 913)
Wilson Staff Ci-11 4-GW (4I is out of the bag for a hybrid, PW and up were replaced by Edel Wedges)
TaylorMade RBZ 5 & 3 Fairway Woods

Cobra Baffler T-Rail 3 & 4 Hybrids

Edel Forged 48, 52, 56, 60, and 64* wedges (different wedges for different courses)

Seemore Si-4 Black Nickel Putter

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tefunk Dedicated Member

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The 588s and Vokey's are both great. Personally I upgraded my wedges to the 588s (based on I was more familiar with the feel/performance Cleveland wedges from my previous LW). I demo'd wedges for about a month or so before making the decision. It came down to the 588s or the Vokeys... 588s. The cool thing I noticed and like about the Vokey SW was that they have a version that is edged (not sure what that is called) so you can open the club up a lot more. It really makes it a very versitle club. I think a lot of the pros have the edging done, so that's probably where they got the idea to produce a standard version like that. It was a really nice club! Either way, I think you'll be happy! Good luck man
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Jon Robert Well Established Member

Jon Robert

HELLOOOOOOOOOOO January 2010!

Do a search on USGA web site equipment tab http://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/search_results.asp

Cleveland 588 wedges = most ARE NOT conforming to groove rules
Titelist Volkey = many ARE conforming to groove rules

90 + % of the clubs have been rendered" illegal" by these idots. Yes I know for lesser than competative events....

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HELLOOOOOOOOOOO January 2010! Do a search on USGA web site equipment tab  [URL=http://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/search_results.asp]http://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/search_results.asp[/URL] Cleveland 588 wedges = most ARE NOT conforming to groove rules Titelist Volkey = many ARE conforming to groove rules 90 + % of the clubs have been rendered" illegal" by these idots. Yes I know for lesser than competative events....

Cleveland released a NEW line of 588 wedges that ARE conforming this year... They brought back the line after a few year hiatus.....

In the bag:

TaylorMade R11 Driver (10.5 stiff stock shaft)

TaylorMade R11 3wood (15 degree stiff stock shaft)

Adams IdeaPro 3i hybrid (20 degree)

Titleist DCI 4-PW (photo)

Cleveland CG15 wedges (52, 56, 60)

Odyssey White-Hot 2-Ball (Superstroke oversize grip)

Bushnell Tour V2 Rangefinder

Ping Hoofer 2012 Bag

 

 

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KrazyTrain18 Well Established Member

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I'm a big Titleist fan, but once I tried the 588, it's hard to play my Vokeys ;)

Titleist 913D2 9.5 (UST VTS 65)

Titleist 913F 15 (Diamana S+)

Titleist 913H 19 (Diamana S+)

Titleist 714 AP2 (4-PW) (DG XP-95)

Titleist Vokey SM5 (52,56,58) (DG XP-95)

Ping Anser 2 Classic

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BigDaddyNot Newbie

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I really, really tried to like my $109 Vokey 56-08. I hit buckets and buckets with it, and still had issues blading it across the green on the worst possible occassions. I was given a 588 black CG wedge in 56 degree, used it for one round and tried to mis-hit it... I couldn't.

Needless to say, it's still in my bag. I just order a used 60 off of ebay.

My son's happy... I gave him the Vokey.

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dennyjones Incredible Member

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Sounds like these will be my next wedges.    This is a great testimony.

What loft does everyone have? 52/56/60?

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KrazyTrain18 Well Established Member

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It's hard to find bad wedges these days.....I now play Ping wedges and love them, the Tour-S models should be given a look at !

Titleist 913D2 9.5 (UST VTS 65)

Titleist 913F 15 (Diamana S+)

Titleist 913H 19 (Diamana S+)

Titleist 714 AP2 (4-PW) (DG XP-95)

Titleist Vokey SM5 (52,56,58) (DG XP-95)

Ping Anser 2 Classic

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