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Swing Vision won't help the amateur golfer, OR Konica Minolta camera: more Art than Science

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You were probably blown away by the 18,000 frames per second image that was being shown on your high definition television screen.  Watching up close right in your face, various players at impact is a site to behold.  Being able to see how the clubface reacts through impact is a powerful image, and one that can get you in trouble in your own game if you’re not careful...

Herein lays the problem:

1) What the viewer is seeing is a 110+ mile per hour swing cover the span of about a foot in a split second, slowed down to 18,000 frames per second which makes it looks long and slow.

2) What they probably don’t realize is that the club face is only “square” for perhaps a thousandth of a second in most swings.  The Swing Vision camera is a great addition, but it is misleading in a sense that it makes impact look much different than it really is.

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True but it does help the average golfer to understand whats going on in those handful of milliseconds and helps them to understand things that dont make sense, such as hitting down on the ball with irons to make it go up and hitting the sand, not the ball on bunker shots.

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Its a powerful tool, and a great addition to any golfers equipment, regardless of what one author might think. We know impact is a fraction of a second, most golfers are not clueless. Being able to see your swing flaws at ANY fraction of a second is an amazing teaching tool.

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Man, his whole impact position is perfect, his ball striking is perfect, getting the ball just a millisecond before the ground, great compression.

When I look at it, I see absolutely everything my own swing coach wants me to do, and Tiger does it absolutely perfectly.

Watching my own swing with my coach, he often tells me that my swing and contact are top notch, but damn, when I comnpare it to that, my swing looks, whats the word, pathetic?

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The tool is invaluable - it's the interpreter that's the problem. High FPS cameras rule! I refuse to use the name of the sponsor though.

Also CBS uses high fps cameras too often on things like bouncing ball markers in bunkers. The novelty is gone CBS, there's plenty where that came from on the interwebs.

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