Americans and Brits Shouting!

[dsc123]

Originally Posted by duckhook3

Golf is a civilised sport, where unnecessary noise isn't appreciated.

A civilized sport?  Give me a break.

I watched The Greatest Game Ever Played the other night.  Your comments remind me of Reed, sitting at the dinner table insulting Vardon and the other guy because they came from a lower stock.

Originally Posted by Spyder

Please do not watch "Redneck Vacation" on CMT and think that you are watching 'Merica at its finest. That is not the case.

They probably get that opinion by watching BBC and see Americans cheer for Sarah Palin and demand that Barak Obama show his birth certificate.

[dave67az]

Originally Posted by duckhook3

This has nothing to do with needing absolute silence for the pros to play golf, it's about the ****ing idiots who think golf is some kind of stadium sport where you can scream whatever you want during it.

Golf is a civilised sport, where unnecessary noise isn't appreciated. Americans are turning it into a joke, I know the American public aren't very mature or educated(46% are creationists, nip slips are national controversies), but atleast respect the game you supposedly play.

Two different subjects here.  #1, if they wanted to eliminate the idiots yelling immediately after the swing all they have to do is turn off the mic right after the swing.  There's a reason you rarely see some idiot running onto a baseball field anymore.

#2.  You know what's worse than the idiots who intentionally disrupt a sport just to get on TV?  An arrogant moron who disrespects his country by acting as though he is better than an entire group of people.  A sign of immaturity is when you don't realize that we're all the same, no matter what country we're from.  We have people like that in America, too.  We have racists who think that people who have a different skin color are somehow less because of genetics.  You're just like them, duckhook3.  Have a little self-respect and try not to publicly embarrass your homeland again (wherever that is...apparently someplace you're not proud of because you didn't bother to list your location).

I sure as hell hope you're not British, because I've lived in England and you, my friend, are FAR from representing the British spirit of open-mindedness and hospitality that I was met with when I was there.  Perhaps you should rethink your position, or at least learn a little temperance when it comes to opening your obviously immature, less-educated mouth.

- Dave

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by dsc123

I watched The Greatest Game Ever Played the other night.  Your comments remind me of Reed, sitting at the dinner table insulting Vardon and the other guy because they came from a lower stock.

"He's an amature.  A bloody amatuuuuure."  I love that movie.  And, in fact, my favorite scene is the one in the (study, I guess) where that reed guy says those first two lines along with a few others ... "He's a peasant" etc, and Ted Ray storms out, then Harry tells him off ... "If Ouimet wins it's not because of where he came from, but because of who he is, ... because of who he bloody is ... and I'd thank you to remember that."

[ClayHbg]

Originally Posted by jamo

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Originally Posted by ClayHbg

I'm just an immature, uneducated American but I do know that the word you're looking for there is ISN'T, not aren't.  I love when people try to insult the education of others they can't even do it without a grammatical error.

I even agree with some of your points but the generalizations are too much for even me.

Not exactly. Different English-speaking countries do that differently.

In America, we generally treat an organization as singular ("Ford is making nice cars" is treated like "Pete is making nice sandwiches") unless it is has an "s" at the end ("the Yankees are winning the AL East"), while in Britain, for instance, they treat an organization as plural ("Arsenal are in the Premier League" is treated like "Lukas Podolski and Theo Walcott are on Arsenal").

Wait, who am I defending? Uhh...

Interesting....well, I stand corrected.....but he's still wrong!  haha.

[windsplitter]

Originally Posted by Ben

I'm with you on this.

There is a time and a place for spectators to be loud and rowdy, but I don't believe that place is a golf tournament.

What may be an instant after impact on one tee box, may be an instant before a putt on the previous green, nearby tee box, etc.

Did anyone catch what was said after Sergio backed off his tee shot on 17 cause the wind stiffened? I heard a lot of jeers from the crowd, directed toward the heckler.

A guy made a kiss sound just as Sergio was about to pull the trigger. I got to hand it to Sergio, he stayed cool about it. I'm not so sure I would.

[Wansteadimp]

Originally Posted by jamo

Not exactly. Different English-speaking countries do that differently.

In America, we generally treat an organization as singular ("Ford is making nice cars" is treated like "Pete is making nice sandwiches") unless it is has an "s" at the end ("the Yankees are winning the AL East"), while in Britain, for instance, they treat an organization as plural ("Arsenal are in the Premier League" is treated like "Lukas Podolski and Theo Walcott are on Arsenal").

Wait, who am I defending? Uhh...

I'm hoping Duckhook isn't English but...... there is a certain type of Englishman that still has delusions of superiority.

Two points with the above:

1) Podolski and Walcott play for Arsenal - they are not "on Arsenal".

2) The latest rumours are that Theo is the next rat to desert the sinking ship at the Emirates so may well be neither on Arsenal or playing for them for much longer.

[Another Duffer]

Hate it, hate it, hate it.  There's a time and place for that, but it's not at a golf tournament.  Nobody wants to hear that.

[rustyredcab]

I don't understand why the PGA doesn't just shut it down -- kick out anyone who yells right after a shot or ball strike. I know there is a slight audio delay on my TV but it sure seems like the yelling is sometimes before contact. Just have officials watch the fans and toss everyone who yells. I'm sure the ticket allows them to toss you at their discretion. Just start doing it.

[jamo]

I don't understand why the PGA doesn't just shut it down -- kick out anyone who yells right after a shot or ball strike. I know there is a slight audio delay on my TV but it sure seems like the yelling is sometimes before contact. Just have officials watch the fans and toss everyone who yells. I'm sure the ticket allows them to toss you at their discretion. Just start doing it.

General shouting or the stupid stuff like "mashed potatoes?" Either way I think it would next to impossible to pinpoint specific perpetrators.

[dave67az]

Originally Posted by jamo

General shouting or the stupid stuff like "mashed potatoes?" Either way I think it would next to impossible to pinpoint specific perpetrators.

I have trouble accepting that the reason they don't do something is because they can't pinpoint the offenders.  There are plenty of marshals and volunteers at the events to find the idiots.  And as soon as they started throwing a few of them out, I'm pretty sure the others would fall in line.  As for the annoyance on the broadcasts, all they have to do is turn off the sound from the mics at the tee as soon as the ball is struck.  Once the idiots realize their shouts aren't making it onto the broadcast, they would eventually stop I think.

[TourSpoon]

I don't understand why the PGA doesn't just shut it down -- kick out anyone who yells right after a shot or ball strike. I know there is a slight audio delay on my TV but it sure seems like the yelling is sometimes before contact. Just have officials watch the fans and toss everyone who yells. I'm sure the ticket allows them to toss you at their discretion. Just start doing it.

I would prefer if the officials attempted to fix slow play first.

[jamo]

I have trouble accepting that the reason they don't do something is because they can't pinpoint the offenders.

Sure, maybe if the guy is standing in the front row the marshall can pick him out. Even then, he takes one step backwards and he blends into the other several thousand people wearing a golf shirt and cap that follow Tiger (or whomever) on every hole.

[rustyredcab]

Originally Posted by jamo

Sure, maybe if the guy is standing in the front row the marshall can pick him out. Even then, he takes one step backwards and he blends into the other several thousand people wearing a golf shirt and cap that follow Tiger (or whomever) on every hole.

You can bet your butt that if the yelling starts to happen in the backswing/downswing instead of "after" the strike, they will find the guys. Toss something on a baseball field with 18,000 others in the stands and they will find you, the fans around you will give you up, and you will be exited.

Finding the jerks is not the problem. The problem is this is allowable behavior. Again, if was not allowable behavior, like yelling "too" early or yelling racist comments, or swearing, they would identify the yellers and toss them out. How many times could people yell, "F*$K NBC and the Golf Channel!" before they would stop it?

[zipazoid]

How about this - with all the technology the networks now have, why can't they 'mute' the audio for, say, three seconds after impact?

The thinking is, once these yum-yums realize their shouts aren't going out on air, they just might stop it.

[dave67az]

Originally Posted by zipazoid

How about this - with all the technology the networks now have, why can't they 'mute' the audio for, say, three seconds after impact?

The thinking is, once these yum-yums realize their shouts aren't going out on air, they just might stop it.

Now THAT's a great idea.

[zipazoid]

Originally Posted by dave67az

Now THAT's a great idea.

Every now & then I catch lucidity in a bottle.

[Goonsidious]

Originally Posted by Wansteadimp

I'm hoping Duckhook isn't English but...... there is a certain type of Englishman that still has delusions of superiority.

Two points with the above:

1) Podolski and Walcott play for Arsenal - they are not "on Arsenal".

2) The latest rumours are that Theo is the next rat to desert the sinking ship at the Emirates so may well be neither on Arsenal or playing for them for much longer.

Arsene will pay his wages and keep him!100k a week!

[Jeffrey71]

My hat's off to the pros who have to deal with the yelling week in and week out. I played with a guy for nine holes, who, after every shot; mine, his, or the other guy in the group; would belch out a comment of some sort. He wouldn't even wait to see the outcome of a shot. Sometimes he would have 2 or 3 comments blurted out before the ball even stopped rolling. It got really nerve racking to say the least.