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Originally Posted by metzie1

Is there any market for the Scotty Cameron Loft/Lie Machine  #112

Probably not at the prices whomever is selling it likely wants to get. :)

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Probably not at the prices whomever is selling it likely wants to get. :)

Sounds about right. Chances are the guys who pay big coin collections are sending their stuff to the CS for modifications. So it'd be more of a collectors show piece than a shop tool. What ballpark we talkin?

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Thank you for your help!   I just need to find a place or forum to sell it. I signed up for a Cameron Forum just waiting to be accepted.

There are rules for newbies selling stuff on TCC. Your best bet is actually eBay. The last few sold between 2-3k... The last one close to 3. Extremely limited market, eBay gets way more eyes...

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Originally Posted by indyvai

There are rules for newbies selling stuff on TCC. Your best bet is actually eBay. The last few sold between 2-3k... The last one close to 3. Extremely limited market, eBay gets way more eyes...

I agree with Ebay although you must know what you're doing there to avoid being scammed. I've sold a pretty decent amount of stuff on Ebay the last few years and it's a great place if you know what you're doing.

Currently Ebay seems to be swinging back to protecting Sellers more. In recent years, they went overboard with Buyer's protection and of course, scammers loved it. They'd claim Item Not Received, Significantly Not As Described, etc.....all with the hope that either Ebay or the Seller just rolls over and gives them a 100% refund or a partial refund.

1. First and foremost: if you sell on Ebay, you do accept Returns. Repeat that..........you do accept Returns. If you select that you don't, you're telling Ebay and Buyers if the item isn't what the Buyer expected, you don't want it back. Ebay will refund the Buyer their money (usually from your Paypal account) and not make them return it. ALWAYS select, Returns accepted. Scammers will move onto the next victim.

2. On items over $250.00 you must use Signature confirmation. Do not let the Buyer talk you out of using Signature Confirmation or you'll lose your Seller protection with Paypal.

3. Only ship the item(s) to the Buyer's Paypal address. Sending it to any other address will void your Seller's protection. If they give you a story about moving, not being there to receive it, etc......don't believe them. Tell them you must ship it to the Paypal address listed. They can always add one to it.

3. With an item so valuable, I would insure it heavily. If the Buyer claims that it was damaged in transit, tell them to Return it and once received and verified that it's the same item, you'll refund them.

4. Set your Seller's filters properly. Under Account tab, go to Site Preferences and down to Buyer requirements. I block these:

a. Don't have a PayPal account - You don't want to run the risk of getting a bogus Cashiers check or Money order.
b. Have received 2 Unpaid Item strike(s) within 12 Month(s) - These are sport bidders & run an item up then don't pay. 2 weeks wasted.
c. Have a primary shipping address in a location I don't ship to. - Sell to Continental U.S. Bidders only. No International including APOs.
d. Have 4 Policy Violation report(s) within 6 Month(s) - Self explanatory.

e. Have a feedback score of -1 or lower - Self explanatory.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by indyvai

That is one heck of a cover your arse eBay tutorial... will have to take notes later!

Some of it was learned through Ebay's forums and most through getting scammed a few times.

Originally Posted by metzie1

I do a lot of Ebay. I learned a lot of great tips from the last post!  Thank you

You're welcome.

A couple more pointers on Ebay Selling guys:

5. Always use Ebay messaging to communicate as that is the only correspondence that is considered official to Ebay. In the event of a dispute, they will review those messages. Don't get nasty or make threats in them either.

6. On your auction style sales: Run each and every bidder through Toolhaus.org           Enter their ID into the search field and click left by. It will show you all the negatives/neutrals that Buyer left over the years. Here's an example of a PITA (pain in the ass) Buyer who will bitch if their ice cream is cold.

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=hautetut&Dirn;=Left+by

7. Also look at their feedback left for others within Ebay. Click on their feedback number and then 'Feedback left for others'. Sometimes a Buyer will always leave backhanded positives (called 'False positives') with comments like 'Great Seller although shipping was high'  or  'Not great quality but the price was okay'. Those ones are the ones who'll leave you a 1 or 2 on your Seller rating stars and if you fall below a certain level, you'll lose selling priviledges. If you don't have a lot of sales, just a couple aholes can get you banned from Selling.

8. If you do find anyone that you'd rather not bid on your item, add them to your BBL (Blocked Bidder List) http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/manage_bidders_ov.html#block . Simply copy their ID, open the link to 'Block bidders', paste their ID in there and save it. If you add more than 1, put a comma then a space in between. I have hundreds on my BBL. Some were obvious, some just smelled fishy. Why take a chance on getting scammed..........

9. If they've already bid on your item, add them to your BBL FIRST then click on the Cancel bids link page. If they send you a message about why you cancelled their bids, just ignore it. Nothing (I repeat NOTHING) you write them will help them get over you telling them you don't want their business.

Good luck!

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Thank You!   It is up on Ebay.     I followed your feedback on the bidders.  Not sure what to do now.   12 hours posted at  3500 or best offer 3 offers already. I may be too low on the starting point.

Not a bad problem to have!      Thank you again.    This is a great site and there are great people

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You can always counter offer them as well but of course only after you've checked their feedback left for others.

How many days did you make the auction for? I usually do 10 days and start it on Thursday about 5 Pacific time. That makes it end the next Sunday evening with East Coast still up and able to bid.

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I made it 10 days.  My Buy it nows I start anytime.  My auctions I start at  6 pm for the same reason you stated.    I sold a lot of things on Ebay, but I learned more from you in the 8 years I been on there. I am also glad Ebay is getting seller sensitive but they have a long way to go in the area.

Again thank you for all your input is was very helpful.

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Serious buyers know the actual value... so $3500 was a good BINOBO strategy. Any higher and you seem like you don't know... I'd take the first 3k offer and be excited. The fact that is says 2nd Swing on it detracts from the value since there is no mystery or mystique about origin etc.
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Originally Posted by indyvai

Soooo? I see it ended with a best offer... Not sure why they hide it!

I think it's a generic setting that Ebay uses for the Seller's protection. If they have more than 1 item of that kind, they don't want the subsequent Buyers knowing what the others paid.

I've had multiple items that I've sold under Best Offers; sometimes I get more out of the second Best offers than the first.

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