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Right tilt at impact. Getting used to feeling closer to the ground. 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

Right tilt at impact. Getting used to feeling closer to the ground. 
 

 

Why is the clubface so closed?

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15 minutes ago, billchao said:

Why is the clubface so closed?

I was extended at the top so added more flex to lead wrist. 

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20 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

I was extended at the top so added more flex to lead wrist. 

I don’t see it. The face is closed through the entire backswing.

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On 3/24/2021 at 9:16 PM, billchao said:

I don’t see it. The face is closed through the entire backswing.

I don't post my bad swings here and my swing can have a lot of variations. Yes, the face is excessively closed between A1 and A2, but it's not too crazy shut at A4. If I let the wrist extend, shaft is too steep coming down.

This is what happens if I don't think flex lead wrist:

When I do:

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You’re plenty deep at A4 in both. Do you think about swinging out more from A4 to A5? That’s one feel my instructor has me working on. Steep at A3 and shallow at A5 with swinging out from transition.

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6 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Yes, the face is excessively closed between A1 and A2, but it's not too crazy shut at A4.

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Looks closed to me, Steve.

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1 hour ago, billchao said:

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Looks closed to me, Steve.

I’d rather have it shut than open. I can find a swing where it’s more shut than that. Open doesn’t work for me, the extended lead wrist gets me steep and I shallow late, leave the face too open (or shank) going to A7The last 3 instructors I’ve worked with have told me to bow the lead wrist at 4 more and I’ll get away from that and get steep. 

3 hours ago, boogielicious said:

You’re plenty deep at A4 in both. Do you think about swinging out more from A4 to A5? That’s one feel my instructor has me working on. Steep at A3 and shallow at A5 with swinging out from transition.

When I try and do that my arms come off my chest and path goes too out to in. When I feel like I drop the club behind me at A4 my arms will go out towards the ball pretty good I think, like in the second swing, at A5 my hands bisect the torso. 

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6 hours ago, nevets88 said:

I’d rather have it shut than open.

Why not square?

6 hours ago, nevets88 said:

I can find a swing where it’s more shut than that. Open doesn’t work for me, the extended lead wrist gets me steep and I shallow late, leave the face too open (or shank) going to A7.

Hooks suck, too.

6 hours ago, nevets88 said:

The last 3 instructors I’ve worked with have told me to bow the lead wrist at 4 more and I’ll get away from that and get steep.

Your face is shut in both swings.

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6 hours ago, nevets88 said:

When I feel like I drop the club behind me at A4 my arms will go out towards the ball pretty good I think, like in the second swing, at A5 my hands bisect the torso

That’s the feel I use too. It’s feeling the head drop behind with the start of the swing going more out than down. It flattens the shafts so by A5 it’s on plane.

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8 hours ago, billchao said:

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Looks closed to me, Steve.

That’s pretty square.

I mean, it is on the closed side of square but…

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23 minutes ago, iacas said:

That’s pretty square.

I mean, it is on the closed side of square but…

I thought square was more toe down there, no?

Not completely toe down obviously but closer to 45°.

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I’m more square here so I can do it. 
I can play around with it when I start hooking it. Maybe the shaft a little bit more laid off is contributing to the closed face?

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1 minute ago, nevets88 said:

Maybe the shaft a little bit more laid off is contributing to the closer look?

That’s probably it.

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Another thing is when I think bow lead wrist, I don’t do a last minute tip out cross way over the line move at A4 before coming down. 

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6 minutes ago, billchao said:

I thought square was more toe down there, no?

Not completely toe down obviously but closer to 45°.

Depends on where the club is on the arc, lead arm angle, etc.

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Admittedly I can be a little careless with camera angle too. 

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Same thing as above, more right side bend, flex lead wrist, "fall behind" at 4. The good news is that I haven't hit really bad shanks in awhile. Heel? Yes. Ball mark on shaft? No.

 

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