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  1. 1. Has Sergio Garcia officially taken this too far?

    • Yes. He shouldn't have said that.
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Apparently trying to blame Tiger for a bad shot and trying to make him look like the bad guy didn't garner enough sympathy for Sergio's liking.  Maybe making a borderline racist comment will work...

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It shows that to Sergio, Tiger is a black person who does black people things.  He's in a room full of white people joking about Tiger eating fried chicken because he is black.  Stereotyping and laugh

JerryTimes
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People are sensitive. In my mind, it's not a racist comment, it's a stereotype.

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A racist comment need not be negative. It is simply a stereotype based on race. A lot of people will say dumb shit like, "I'm not racist, in fact I admire the fact that all black people have rhythm."

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What he said was wrong and stupid. As a non-American, I feel "black people eat fried chicken" is an American based racial stereotype. In my neighbourhood the racial stereotype could easliy be "black people eat jerk chicken (or patties or goat roti)." KFC up here is just a fast food place, not a symbol of racial inequality and I'd imagine even less in Eupore.
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People get so caught up over words. I wish as a society we could take ourselves less seriously and just laugh. That said, in the venue and manner he said it, the comment crossed the line. Whether it was stereotypical or racist is semantics and splitting hairs. Sergio doesn't need to try so hard to show his poor character. We've all seen it on display enough already. It annoys me that Tiger's race is always an issue.

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Originally Posted by AmazingWhacker

For you guys who keep saying it was a stereotype - but not racist . . well, it *is* a stereotype .. about a particular race - so it's racist.

Wikipedia definition of racism: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism)

Racism is usually defined as views, practices and actions reflecting the belief that humanity is divided into distinct biological groups called races and that members of a certain race share certain attributes which make that group as a whole less desirable, more desirable, inferior or superior.[1][2][3]

It is a racist stereotype that all black people like fried chicken.  It's certainly not the worst one out there - it's not even really bad, if you ask me.  But by saying it, Sergio was making a reference to the fact that Tiger is black and making light of it.  Obviously Sergio understood what the comment meant or else he wouldn't have said it - it would've made no sense to say he was going to make pot roast, for example.  He just said it without thinking - if he would've thought about it first, he wouldn't have said it.  This is not to say that, just because he said this, Sergio is prejudiced against black people - but it is a racist comment.

These days, making a racist joke of any kind is a major faux-pas so I'm sure the punishment will fit the crime ten times over.  It will be fun to watch Sergio squirm over the next few weeks and into the US Open.


Amazing Whacker is correct, this is a racist remark, but that does not cast Sergio in with the lot of white supremacist types and such. With his media experience he should have known not to say this and he is going to have to deal with this for years I am sure. Ten times over indeed.

Europe is struggling with racism issues that Americans don't see unless you are a soccer fan. Teams are getting in trouble for the behavior of fans, matches are getting stopped due to racist chanting/singing from the stands. Games are having to be played in empty stadiums in order to punish teams and fans. To my limited knowledge this is mostly happening in Italy, but there have been issues in Spain and France also. Even issues with players and referees in the English Premier League made the news this year.

Hopefully this incident helps raise the visibility of this low level racism that many people want to dismiss but does add up to a cultural acceptance, and it should not.

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Originally Posted by JerryTimes

I guess I look at what being racist is differently.  To me, a racist comment would be something that was negative based on that persons race.  To me, while the comment is stupid, it's just stating a stereotype.  Tiger is also Asian, if he said he'd serve some sesame chicken, would you still think it's racist?  People need to relax.

Absolutely.

To me this qualifies as a racist comment. I dont know Sergio Garcia personally so I have no idea if he's a racist or not. It takes way more than this for me to paint someone as a racist. But his comment was racist. I have a right to feel this way and please sir do not tell me I need to relax.

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Originally Posted by frazzled924

What he said was wrong and stupid. As a non-American, I feel "black people eat fried chicken" is an American based racial stereotype. In my neighbourhood the racial stereotype could easliy be "black people eat jerk chicken (or patties or goat roti)." KFC up here is just a fast food place, not a symbol of racial inequality and I'd imagine even less in Eupore.

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Originally Posted by RonTheSavage

Absolutely.

To me this qualifies as a racist comment. I dont know Sergio Garcia personally so I have no idea if he's a racist or not. It takes way more than this for me to paint someone as a racist. But his comment was racist.......in my opinion.

My point exactly. Making a racist comment/joke doesn't make you a racist, it makes you an idiot. Believing that racists comment/joke makes you a racist. I doubt Sergio is a racist. I suspect Sergio is an idiot.

Edit* and with that said, I believe I am done with this thread and incident. I don't expect anything of substance to be added to this debate.

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Certainly think it is a racist comment but does it make Sergio a racist? I'm not sure about that. Someone on Morning Drive commented that Sergio has been around a long time and if he was a racist this would have been snuffed out long ago. He may be the most immature 33 year old out there and he will regret this for a long time to come. Just ask Fuzzy.

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TBH, this may be good for Sergio. Maybe he can wake up and realise he needs to STFU some times and just play golf

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Originally Posted by newtogolf

It's not racist as much as it's ignorant.  Sergio would be best served to shut his mouth and stick to the European Tour where he can avoid having to get his butt kicked by Tiger again.   Maybe Tiger can invite Sergio over for some taco's and Spanish rice...jeez what an idiot.

I've officially gone to not caring about him to not liking him, totally classless.

Tacos originated in Mexico, not Spain.

Paella and tapas are traditional Spanish foods.

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Originally Posted by muggs

People get so caught up over words. I wish as a society we could take ourselves less seriously and just laugh. That said, in the venue and manner he said it, the comment crossed the line. Whether it was stereotypical or racist is semantics and splitting hairs. Sergio doesn't need to try so hard to show his poor character. We've all seen it on display enough already. It annoys me that Tiger's race is always an issue.

It is only an issue when stupid ignorant people like Sergio make it an issue.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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Originally Posted by MacDutch

I am no Garcia fan and a big Tiger fan but.....

You guys are way too sensitive about this. No racial remark at all.

It was a racial remark, regardless of intent.  If you can't see that then you'be been hiding in a hole for the last 40 years.  A comment like that is always going to strike a soft spot in someone.  I'm not part of the sensitive political correctness crowd, but I can still tell when I see or hear something which will set them off.

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Stupid and racist...Sergio might have been right that "Tiger isn't the nicest guy on tour" (not many GOATs are also the nicest of all time) but Sergio needs to stick to golf and avoid attempting ad lib humor at press conferences.  Sure he is sorry he said it, but the damage is done.  Tiger is definitely the one coming out of this feud smelling like roses, Sergio, not so much.

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