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In my youth when I worked as a server at a restaurant, I would say that cheap tippers could be roughly divided into three camps: 25% of them were lower class people, many of whom probably didn't know better, some of whom couldn't really afford the meal and were cutting corners where they could; 25% of them were middle to upper-middle class people (i.e. the kind who like to sneer at those they believe are responsible for the "entitlement problem") who were just tightwad cheapskates, and 50% were elderly people, at least half of whom belonged to the second group. Next time anyone is inclined to think "those damn waiters/waitresses have such a simple, easy job," keep in mind that servers have to deal with a lot more demanding, problem individuals every day than the average person. When's the last time you had to deal with a situation as unpleasant as a table of 15 old church ladies, all of whom want separate checks, half demand items or portion sizes that have never been on the menu and mistakenly complain that they just had that there two weeks ago, who will blame the server for problems with the food even when the server is perfectly attentive, several of whom will complain that their bill is too high, and half will tip 37 cents or leave a phony dollar bill with a psalm printed on the back in lieu of a tip? ====================================================================================================================================== I keep my restaurant experiences from several decades ago in mind and always tip 20% for decent service, more if the server did a particularly good job. Anyone tipping less than 15% for reasonable service at a normal sit-down restaurant in the U.S. is not just a cheapskate, they are essentially committing a theft of service, no different to me than if someone decided they were only going to pay $180 toward a $200 bill from their doctor, lawyer, or accountant. Cheapskates will very, very bitterly deny this, but they never have a good explanation other than some nonsense about it being "their discretion" and some arrogant copout "if they wanted to earn better money, they should have gotten a better job." If the server didn't provide decent service, by all means dock his/her tip, but don't stiff servers if they do a good job - it's inexcusable and it's classless. ===================================================================================================================================== Entitlement is a funny thing - everyone thinks they and their particular group are entitled to government benefits - whether it's food stamps and health care, or tax breaks for corporations and upper income individuals - but resents any other group getting any government special treatment. I heard an interview of singer Jewel once who described how in her homeless days as a teenager (fled a homelife filled with substance abuse), she almost died from a very treatable health issue because of lack of health care. She commented something along the lines of "I'm not sure I understand why some people think everyone is entitled to have smooth roads and highways but think it's less important to have medical treatment that will save lives." ======================================================================================================================================== However, I agree with Boogielicious that merely taking a customer's money and pushing a bag across the counter is not something that justifies a tip - it's no different whether it's a pack of gum at a convenience store, a turn signal bulb at an auto parts shop or a carry out order at a restaurant.

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Even better, I never tip for take out unless I screw up the order and they fix it for me on the spot or something. But if you're just bagging up my food, I pay, say thank you and leave. Dont get me wrong, it was a very cool thing that Bubba did, he seems like a pretty cool guy. I just dont understand how this turned into how cheap Tiger is?

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I'll never understand the tipping in the USA: Why not pay the workers more salary and rise the prices a bit if you have to pay it either way. It doesn't really matter if a waiter earns a 2000$ salary and 500$ in tips or if they just pay him 2500$ salary (or whatever a waiter earns). Because a 50$ meal excluding a 10$ tip is the same as if you have to pay 60$ without any tip. This is how it works in Switzerland, you only tip if it really was special and no one will think bad of you, if you don't tip after eating in a restaurant. But that's not really on topic...

Every time I think of Bubba, I remeber how he treated his caddy two months ago.


So what's everyone's thoughts on this classic. "For your convenience, a gratuity of 18% will be added to parties of six or larger."

Originally Posted by Zwick

I'll never understand the tipping in the USA: Why not pay the workers more salary and rise the prices a bit if you have to pay it either way. It doesn't really matter if a waiter earns a 2000$ salary and 500$ in tips or if they just pay him 2500$ salary (or whatever a waiter earns). Because a 50$ meal excluding a 10$ tip is the same as if you have to pay 60$ without any tip. This is how it works in Switzerland, you only tip if it really was special and no one will think bad of you, if you don't tip after eating in a restaurant. But that's not really on topic...

There's a laundry list of customs that are different between the US and other countries. Doesn't make any particular way right or wrong.

Originally Posted by Infamous 273

So what's everyone's thoughts on this classic.

"For your convenience, a gratuity of 18% will be added to parties of six or larger."

I have no problem with that. But I don't leave an additional tip unless the server was awesome.

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I have no issue with that, but I think it's funny how they word it.

Ron :nike: GOLF Embracing my Angry Black Male :mad:


Originally Posted by Infamous 273

So what's everyone's thoughts on this classic.

"For your convenience, a gratuity of 18% will be added to parties of six or larger."

Translation:

'Since you likely don't know math or are a cheap bastard, we did the work for you.'


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