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Came from a club fitting today (first time on trackman with an official fitter) was recommended to switch from callaway razr x to titelist ap1...is ap1 better?


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my golf pro recommended me this club fitter that used to be part of the Jim Mclean network. paid $175 for fitting I have the trackman info there the actual fitting report does not seem to have much.

Ultimately he recommended me to switch to AP1 clubs from my callaway razr x...now I'm lefty so It's not as easy for me to walk into a store and see a set of all the irons in lefty and try them..most of them have a set or two if any and that's it.

I bought my razr x sight unseen because they had them on a super sale.  I'm not opposed to switching to the ap1's if their unequivocally better.  I'm not opposed to switching to them also because fitter said their easier to bend/work with than my razr x

just not sure what to do..any thoughts on if it the ap1 is an upgrade?

if anybody is interested in seeing my trackman report and or club fitting report (which is just one page, and basically states I should be using stiff) I'll send over.

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I don't know anything about the place you were fitted at, but the fact they have Track Man would suggest they're qualified overall.  When I was fitted last spring, I went in with zero preference for which irons I'd get.  The guy tried a LOT of head and shaft combinations.  Going into the fitting, I assumed he'd recommend Ping G20's or something along those lines due to maximum forgiveness.  Ultimately, I was most consistent with the AP1's (with Dynamic Golf S300 shafts), which he noted and recommended.  So that's what I ordered.

Did you hit your RAZR's on the Track Man as well?  Was there a difference in distance and/or consistency?

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Don't take any offense by this, but if you're a 36 handicap, are you a consistent enough ball striker so that the brand of club would make a significant difference? As long as the basics are fitted to you (length, lie, weight, etc), then I don't think the actual head would make a huge difference (assuming both are GI irons, as in this case).

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was also recommended the nippon 1050 shaft...he basically said I should be using a light shaft but stiff.

I know what you mean by getting lefty gear. I really like the x forged, but I also like the titleist stuff. They are both really expensive clubs. Why do they recommend that you change the club head? It seems like the cheapest away is to just change the shafts. You can buy some dynamic gold S300 shafts for $18 a piece retail. I saw some for sale at dicks earlier for a bit less. They, generally, change the shaft for a discounted price if you buy the shafts from them. Changing the shafts should be less than $170. You did mentioned that you need lightweight stiff. I would suppose, based upon your 36 HC, that you are a beginning or novice player. If this is the case it might be better to get lessons until your swing is good. My coach is a clubfitter, and he recommends that my swing should also be stabilized (good) before fitting anything.

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Originally Posted by nickel_aTm

I don't know anything about the place you were fitted at, but the fact they have Track Man would suggest they're qualified overall.  When I was fitted last spring, I went in with zero preference for which irons I'd get.  The guy tried a LOT of head and shaft combinations.  Going into the fitting, I assumed he'd recommend Ping G20's or something along those lines due to maximum forgiveness.  Ultimately, I was most consistent with the AP1's (with Dynamic Golf S300 shafts), which he noted and recommended.  So that's what I ordered.

Did you hit your RAZR's on the Track Man as well?  Was there a difference in distance and/or consistency?

My clubs are the callaway razr x they came in third in dispersion but at the same time im still very inconsistent..distance the rocketbladez, burner 2.0 rbz tour and my clubs were all about the same.  I didnt get to try the AP1 because he did not have them.

Originally Posted by geauxforbroke

Don't take any offense by this, but if you're a 36 handicap, are you a consistent enough ball striker so that the brand of club would make a significant difference? As long as the basics are fitted to you (length, lie, weight, etc), then I don't think the actual head would make a huge difference (assuming both are GI irons, as in this case).

I'm not sure if I'm still a 36 handicapper I have not updated that in a while.  I do not take any offense and understand the logic behind your post. I'm still inconsistent but I have made much strides in my striking consistency.  I went with the intention of getting fitted for "my clubs" it veered to a recommendation of the ap1

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I know what you mean by getting lefty gear. I really like the x forged, but I also like the titleist stuff. They are both really expensive clubs.

Why do they recommend that you change the club head? It seems like the cheapest away is to just change the shafts.

You can buy some dynamic gold S300 shafts for $18 a piece retail. I saw some for sale at dicks earlier for a bit less. They, generally, change the shaft for a discounted price if you buy the shafts from them. Changing the shafts should be less than $170.

You did mentioned that you need lightweight stiff. I would suppose, based upon your 36 HC, that you are a beginning or novice player. If this is the case it might be better to get lessons until your swing is good. My coach is a clubfitter, and he recommends that my swing should also be stabilized (good) before fitting anything.

I think this is an excellent recommendation I really do.  I may switch out the shafts..I'm not such a beginner anymore but I am still inconsistent...I do/have taken lessons. I was under the assumption based on golf pro and what i read on forums that even for a beginner it's important to get fitted.  based on my fitting yesterday it seems that it was geared more to mid to low handicap players.

I will look into changing out the shaft..I was considering the ap1 because if it was "better" than my current club and would help or be more game improving then I would want to go that route.

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If I read this correctly, you went and got fitted. Hit a variety of clubs, and the fitter ended up recommending the AP1, and you didn't even hit it? How did he come to this conclusion? I'm shocked that you would consider spending money on a new set of AP1 irons, just because someone recommended them after seeing your numbers on Trackman, without said club being hit. I mean I understand you spent $175 on the fitting. Id tell the dude to minimally get you a 6i in lefty and hit it on his Trackman before you go and order an entire set. Sounds like the dude gets a spiff for selling Titelist and you received a biased opinion. Buyer be warned. When there is smoke, there's fire.
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