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Lol, point taken. Although the data seems to confirm my hunch, that Furyk has been a substandard Ryder Cup performer.

He does seem to get worn out pretty easily :-)

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I'd like to see the Presidents and Ryder Cup teams experiment with the majority of selections being captains picks rather than using Tour or OWGR ranking.  I believe there's a different mind set to match play versus stroke play and just because a golfer is top 10 on PGA Tour (almost 100% stroke play tournaments) doesn't mean they are the best options we have for match play and the alternating formats that are used in these tournaments.

We've had great success in Presidents Cups but it doesn't seem to carry over to the Ryder Cup.

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I'd like to see the Presidents and Ryder Cup teams experiment with the majority of selections being captains picks rather than using Tour or OWGR ranking.  I believe there's a different mind set to match play versus stroke play and just because a golfer is top 10 on PGA Tour (almost 100% stroke play tournaments) doesn't mean they are the best options we have for match play and the alternating formats that are used in these tournaments.

I'd support more captain's picks but I think the majority or at least half of the team should be "earned" non-subjective spots. And since Tiger, Phil, etc. are going to qualify either as picks or by taking some of the earned spots, that supports keeping at least eight earned spots out of twelve.

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I'd support more captain's picks but I think the majority or at least half of the team should be "earned" non-subjective spots. And since Tiger, Phil, etc. are going to qualify either as picks or by taking some of the earned spots, that supports keeping at least eight earned spots out of twelve.

I get your point, just thought it would be more fun, interesting and might yield better results if the team captain had more input as to who was on his team.  I'd be happy with 6 "earned" and the rest as captains picks as a start.

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I get your point, just thought it would be more fun, interesting and might yield better results if the team captain had more input as to who was on his team.  I'd be happy with 6 "earned" and the rest as captains picks as a start.

One thing's for certain: those captains would certainly have more than the teeny tiny minuscule influence on the outcome like they do now.

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One thing's for certain: those captains would certainly have more than the teeny tiny minuscule influence on the outcome like they do now.

Which is something I'd be happy to see.  They'd have full ownership of the team and strategy.  If I was Couples and knew going in I was going to take heat for losing, I'd at least want to do it with "my" guys.

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I'd like to see the Presidents and Ryder Cup teams experiment with the majority of selections being captains picks rather than using Tour or OWGR ranking.  I believe there's a different mind set to match play versus stroke play and just because a golfer is top 10 on PGA Tour (almost 100% stroke play tournaments) doesn't mean they are the best options we have for match play and the alternating formats that are used in these tournaments.

We've had great success in Presidents Cups but it doesn't seem to carry over to the Ryder Cup.

My guess is that the team composition would not be that different- Couples really only made 1 captain's pick as Simpson was #11.  Same with Price as he picked a #12 IIRC.

If Couples could have picked all 12 guys, who do you think he would have added and who would have been left out?  Maybe DJ or JF in, but who would have been left out?

Same question with the Internationals.

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My guess is that the team composition would not be that different- Couples really only made 1 captain's pick as Simpson was #11.  Same with Price as he picked a #12 IIRC. If Couples could have picked all 12 guys, who do you think he would have added and who would have been left out?  Maybe DJ or JF in, but who would have been left out? Same question with the Internationals.

I'm with MEfree on this one. I think our team is pretty solid, who could be added? Bubba isn't playing that strong right now, either is Furik or DJ or Fowler... Everyone on our list has really been spot on this year. I get match play is a somewhat different animal, but the one hitting better shots and making putts should win just the same.

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One thing's for certain: those captains would certainly have more than the teeny tiny minuscule influence on the outcome like they do now.

Hey, they do get to pick the team outfits......  How big is that?! :-D

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WE WILL BURY YOU!!!!!!!

I feel obliged to say that, but if past history and current form are any guide -- yeah, it's gonna be another beating for the International team.

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WE WILL BURY YOU!!!!!!!

And I'll be driving to Texas on Sunday, so I won't get to see it. Just like I didn't see the last day of the Ryder Cup last year. :P

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