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7 hours ago, JerseyBoy said:

I love Golf, and I'm not going to be here. 1st impressions are all I need. And my 1st Impression of this site isn't favorable. The feeling's probably mutual. THP also has an owner that can't manage to refrain from being a dickhead. No thanks. There, nor here. 

What an incredibly dumb thing to say @JerseyBoy-What did anyone do here? The only dickhead is you.-If you keep going from site to site and everyone is a jerk the thing in common is you.

People here disagreed with you -Almost all of them. Does not make them dickheads.

BTW I am not being a dickhead in disagreeing with you too. T2 T5 12th and already 88th in the OWGR. Yeah but because YOU think he is forcing it your opinion is the only one that matters? Puh-lease.

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A bunch of guys in my league got into a discussion about Tiger's comeback this morning. Some surprising (to me) and I think valid points were brought up. Here are a few.  Tigers health has been good since December, and he had some good tournaments on the West Coast. The Masters, despite his final round was a big disappointment. Even with the shaft change in the driver, he basically was grinding to make the cut and never a factor. He's in his forties, so it isn't like he has a huge window to get his game back to where it was. Most players his age are married, his life on Tour has to be kind of lonely, nobody could imagine a tour wife wanting her husband hanging with Tiger socially. A reasonable point to assess Tiger would be when the British Open is over, he'll have over 6 months out there, played just about everywhere he wanted. We should know by then how he stacks up against this crop of players. Will he be okay with just having a chance to contend, rarely if ever winning? Surprisingly to me almost everyone thought he would, as long as he stayed healthy. Another surprise, and something I would never be able to see myself, a few felt he changed his swing during the Masters, reverting back to what he was doing with Foley.  

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21 hours ago, GrandStranded said:

A bunch of guys in my league got into a discussion about Tiger's comeback this morning. Some surprising (to me) and I think valid points were brought up. Here are a few.  Tigers health has been good since December, and he had some good tournaments on the West Coast. The Masters, despite his final round was a big disappointment. Even with the shaft change in the driver, he basically was grinding to make the cut and never a factor. He's in his forties, so it isn't like he has a huge window to get his game back to where it was. Most players his age are married, his life on Tour has to be kind of lonely, nobody could imagine a tour wife wanting her husband hanging with Tiger socially. A reasonable point to assess Tiger would be when the British Open is over, he'll have over 6 months out there, played just about everywhere he wanted. We should know by then how he stacks up against this crop of players. Will he be okay with just having a chance to contend, rarely if ever winning? Surprisingly to me almost everyone thought he would, as long as he stayed healthy. Another surprise, and something I would never be able to see myself, a few felt he changed his swing during the Masters, reverting back to what he was doing with Foley.  

The idea of a player's personal circumstance impacting their play, particularly their dating lives, has always fascinated me. 

As for Tiger, his winning seems to correlate with stability in his personal life.

Allow me to propose a thesis: Tiger Woods needs a stable home life to win golf tournaments.

1996 - 2001 (29 victories, 6 majors) - Woods' Dad is the focal point of his life

2002 - 2009 (42 victories, 8 majors) - Woods is dating and married to Elin

2010 - 2011 (0 victories) - Single

March 2012 (1 victory) - Single (Woods meets Lindsey Vonn in April 2012)

2012 - 2013 (7 victories) - Woods dates Lindsey Vonn

Since meeting Elin, Tiger has had a single victory while single (heh). 

Can Tiger win while single? 

Should we keep a close eye on his dating life to predict when he will win next?

Or will this be the part of the story where he overcomes his personal demons and does it alone?

- Mark

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6 hours ago, 3jacker said:

Hey, anyone reading the new biography?

We have a topic for it in the Reading Room.

4 hours ago, Braivo said:

As for Tiger, his winning seems to correlate with stability in his personal life.

2002 - 2009 (42 victories, 8 majors) - Woods is dating and married to Elin

:hmm:  You call that time period stable? :-)

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Well, any tour pro can top it on demand, but here's The Big Cat, topping it. So the clinic is on GC tonight.

 

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Rumor mill - Wells Fargo maybe?

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Tiger Woods is expected to return to competition at next week's Wells Fargo Championship, according to multiple Golf Channel sources. The news of Woods' participation was first reported Thursday on "Golf Central."

https://www.golfchannel.com/article/golf-central-blog/sources-woods-returning-wells-fargo-championship/

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Looks like he did confirm Wells Fargo Championship and the Players.

Looking forward to watching both of these tournaments.  Hopefully, we can see him making a serious run at contending.

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Yep, that will be back-to-back weeks for Tiger.

 

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Based on the caption it looks like he will be gaming new irons this week. 

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12 hours ago, klineka said:

Based on the caption it looks like he will be gaming new irons this week. 

Ha ha. "New." 😀

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He probably has the spec sheets for each iron so he just hands it to the club companies and says, "Make this!"

Given the fact those irons do not exist on Taylormade's website tells me that they are custom made. 

Here is the closest thing Taylormad has to blade irons, 

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