Jump to content
Valleygolfer

Tiger Woods Master Catch-All Discussion

3,228 posts / 237591 viewsLast Reply

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, brocks said:

According to @Frank-0-Sport's link, you're in the WGC if you are in the top 50 either this week or next week, so nobody can knock him out next week.

The Barbisol only awards 24 points to the winner, and anybody capable of reaching the top 50 with so few points is probably playing in the Open rather than there, but it's theoretically possible -- IIRC, Kenny Perry once skipped the Open to play in an opposite event.  I very much doubt it would happen, though.

Thanks, didn't know that you were protected if in the top 50 after this week.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Want to hide this ad? Register for free today!

Replying to many who are both surprised and pleased by Tiger Woods' projected OWGR Top 50 ranking (official confirmation of it on Monday).

Early in the week, I was seeing reports that it might take at least a Top Five finish for Tiger to make the OWGR Top 50. If the mathematics are confirmed on Monday, he "squeaked in" with a 3-way tie for 6th, Possibly the OWGR Field Strength (SoF) of 902 for the 147th Open Championship may have helped here, though I am not expert enough to say for sure.

Incidently, as I pointed out over in the 147th Open thread, the 902 Field-Strength rating puts the Open Championship at the top of such ranked events for calendar year 2018, with the WGC Bridgestone and PGA Championship still yet to come. Following the 147th Open in Field Strength (SoF) are the US Open (855), the Players Championship (854), the Masters (794), WGC Match Play (733), WGC Mexico City (679), the Memorial Tournament (652), Genesis-Los Angeles (500), Wells Fargo (492) and W.M. Phoenix (477).

LINK: OWGR Events Page -- Toggle SoF (Field Strength) so that the highest ranked event is shown first, and lower ranking events follow in descending order.

Edited by Frank-0-Sport

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

35 minutes ago, Frank-0-Sport said:

Possibly the OWGR Field Strength (SoF) of 902 for the 147th Open Championship may have helped here, though I am not expert enough to say for sure.

No, the OWGR points for majors are hardwired, regardless of the strength of field.  The Players was stronger than the Masters, as you posted, and yet the Masters winner got 20 more points than the Players winner, and proportionately down the standings.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, brocks said:

IIRC, Kenny Perry once skipped the Open to play in an opposite event.  I very much doubt it would happen, though.

2008, Kenny Perry wanted to focus on qualifying for the Ryder Cup, which was being held in his birthstate.  He had also won his two immediate prior starts and had a T-6 prior to those two.  He finished T-6 in the opposite field event and did qualify for the Ryder Cup.  As to what would have happened if he had shown up at Royal Birkdale instead, who knows.  He did qualify for the Ryder Cup though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Woods is currently at 1.75 strokes gained average (ranked 6th!). His putting is finally start to pick up. I believe he was near the bottom of the PGA Tour recently. Now he's almost in the top 50 in putting.

Now he's going to a course he's owned over his career at Firestone South. Even thought he faltered a bit this week. He can take a lot of positives from being in the lead on a Sunday. I'd look out for him at the Bridgestone.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It’s good to see the big cat getting past the Foley time.  He played to his strengths and I really like seeing him more upright with arms in the rehearsals.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One hole.   more specifically, 1 bad flop shot killed him.  It was there, though.   

I disagree with the announcers, though.   I think the flop was the right call.   on a major hunt, you've gotta make plays.  club just slid under the ball.   I bet if you give him that same shot 10 times, he makes Par 7 times, bogey 2 times, and double once.   

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

2 minutes ago, lastings said:

One hole.   more specifically, 1 bad flop shot killed him.  It was there, though.   

I disagree with the announcers, though.   I think the flop was the right call.   on a major hunt, you've gotta make plays.  club just slid under the ball.   I bet if you give him that same shot 10 times, he makes Par 7 times, bogey 2 times, and double once.   

 

I missed that.  One second he's tied for 1st.  I step out and come back and he's a couple down.....is there a clip?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

1 minute ago, rehmwa said:

I missed that.  One second he's tied for 1st.  I step out and come back and he's a couple down.....is there a clip?

I imagine I could track one down.. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

1 minute ago, lastings said:

I imagine I could track one down.. 

I deleted the recording, it might still be in the trash file on the DVR when I get home.  Apparently this was hole 12 (or 14) after he hit a fan.  THANKS, I think I can find it.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

3 minutes ago, rehmwa said:

I deleted the recording, it might still be in the trash file on the DVR when I get home.  Apparently this was hole 12 (or 14) after he hit a fan.  THANKS, I think I can find it.

 

yeah, it was hole 11.   

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It was a mistake, too much risk during a shot under the highest pressure. He should have chipped it on the green and make bogey or par. 

I think he needs to get used to win again. After a couple of wins, gates will go open.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

"too much risk during a shot under the highest pressure."

isn't this what Tiger Woods does, though?   he was in shot maker mode at that point in the tournament.  

I mean, it's a little flop shot.  We've seen Tiger execute that shot under pressure countless times.   The moment I see Tiger chip that ball left and settle for a probably bogey, is the moment I know the old Tiger is dead and buried.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

18 minutes ago, lastings said:

One hole.   more specifically, 1 bad flop shot killed him.  It was there, though.   

I disagree with the announcers, though.   I think the flop was the right call.   on a major hunt, you've gotta make plays.  club just slid under the ball.   I bet if you give him that same shot 10 times, he makes Par 7 times, bogey 2 times, and double once.   

 

I agree that the flop was the right call. If it carried another yard it would have been a great shot. Even with the result of the flop, I was confident he'd get it up and down for bogey... the double really hurt. Man I was so sure he was going to drain the birdie after hitting that crazy wedge shot at 10, too. Such a turn of events from solo 1st thru 10 to outside the top 5 after 12. I wonder if TW is as crushed as I am LOL.  He is going to win soon, surely!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

2 minutes ago, Dakota Atkinson said:

 Man I was so sure he was going to drain the birdie after hitting that crazy wedge shot at 10, too. 

that wedge out of the bunker was incredible.   

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

2 hours ago, Jack Watson said:

It’s good to see the big cat getting past the Foley time.  He played to his strengths and I really like seeing him more upright with arms in the rehearsals.  

Meanwhile, on planet Earth, sane people recognize that Kevin Chappell and Justin Rose both work with Foley.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Hey @iacas, what do you think Tiger is trying to feel when he does those really loose practice swings? Going past parallel at the top and (asfaict) almost relaxing his grip at the top?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

1 hour ago, MacDutch said:

It was a mistake, too much risk during a shot under the highest pressure. He should have chipped it on the green and make bogey or par. 

I think he needs to get used to win again. After a couple of wins, gates will go open.

Yes I agree he shouldn't have tried the flop at that time because double is a killer compared to bogey.Thing is he shouldn't have tried that bunker shot from fairway either but he was playing aggressive and pulled that off so he probably thought he could do it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2019 TST Partners

    PING Golf
    FlightScope Mevo
  • Posts

    • I had two friends that played Founders Clubs.  I have never heard of them being a club made by Langert. How ever a search did bring up some info on those clubs. Is this the item you are referring to? eBay has a listing for this driver. My friends played this driver.  
    • I watch GSK just because I like watching him play.  But he is a scratch player so he can get away with hitting three 6 irons on a 540 yd par five.  Me, I have to get max distance on every shot because I know that I will probably mis-hit 1/3 shots.  So his divide and conquer strategy wont work for me.  Fun videos tho. 
    • Another idea is to make your own shaft flex board. Maltby sell one for $180. I once made one for free using a scrap of plywood, and some 2", 1/4" dowell material. Hung it on my garage wall.  I marked known  clubs flexes on the board as reference points, using a consistent weight. The board also gave me other info besides flex.  It was crude looking, but did the job.  It mattered little what the manufacturer's rating on the shaft was, which was usually different from each company. What ever my flex board showed me, was what the actual flex was when compared to the known flexes I used.   Maltby probably has a picture of his flex board on his website. Probably other sites have picts available too. With a little self ingenuity, a person can study the picture, and build their own. It's pretty easy. 
    • I thought about this a while, and then had an epiphany last night.  Without a perfect test, the answer is almost definitely no. It's a fairly simple statistical calculation called Bayes' Theorem. The end result is that you'll end up preventing more people from driving when they aren't drunk than preventing drunk drivers. I'm going to plug in numbers, but since I'm (likely correctly!) assuming drunk driving is a rare event, the numbers don't really matter that much. I'm also going to assume the test is extremely accurate. Let's say that in 1/10,000 car trips, the driver is too drunk to legally drive. This is probably an underestimation by a factor of 100, if not more, if you think about how many car trips there are in a day. Let's assume that the when the test is positive, the driver is drunk 99.9% of the time. And then assume that when the test is negative, the driver is sober 99.9% of the time (in other words, if the test is negative, the driver is drunk 0.1% of the time). We can use this to plug in probabilities for each event. Probability that a driver is drunk: .0001 Probability that a driver is sober: .9999 Probability that a drunk driver gets a positive test: .999 Probability that a drunk driver gets a negative test: .001 Probability that a sober driver gets a positive test: .001 Probability that a sober driver gets a negative test: .999 Bayes' Theorem applies here. It says: The probability that someone is drunk driver given a positive test is equal to the probability of a drunk driver gets a positive test times the probability of a drunk driver; that divided by the following: the probability of a drunk getting a positive test times probability of a drunk driver plus the probability of sober driver getting a positive test times the probability of a sober driver. In mathematic terms (DD=drunk driver; SD = sober driver; + = positive test): P(DD | +) = (P(+ | DD)*P(DD))/((P+ | DD)*P(DD)+P(+ | SD)*P(SD)) Plug in the numbers: P(DD | +) = ((.999)*(.0001))/((.999)*(.0001)+(.001)*(.9999)) P(DD | +) = .0908 In other words, the probability of a drunk driver given a positive test is only 9%. Meaning that out of a 100 people that test positive under this test, 91 of them would actually be sober. Because the test is imperfect and drunk driving is rare, it's going to impact more sober drivers than drunk drivers. Even if the test is 99.99% accurate and as a false positive rate of 0.01%, the probability of a drunk driver given a positive test is only 50%. Note that I'm assuming that 1/10,000 car trips is one by a drunk driver. If you assume 1/100,000 car trips are by a drunk driver, the probability of a drunk driver given a positive test is 0.9%. (You can also use this calculate to find out the odds that a drunk driver will have a negative test, but I have other stuff to do now...) So, without a nearly perfect test, it's a bad idea for the entire population. If drunk drivers were more frequent, then it would make more sense. Hence, it makes sense for someone who is more likely to drive drunk, and why the current policy probably makes sense. 
    • Hey Ben, good to see you’re still around!   I remember those irons. They’re beautiful! Sorry, I can’t help with the driver though…
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Blog Entries

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Edsland
      Edsland
      (65 years old)
    2. KingHack82
      KingHack82
      (37 years old)
    3. snowbeast
      snowbeast
      (32 years old)

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...