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club face controll? better swing, heel or toe, right elbow, errrrr, this may be long winded so grab a drink.

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hello all - here is my run down: I have been golfing 6 years. I'm 45 I play right handed tho I am left handed. I throw left handed, I hunt righty, I played base ball righty, my index right now is 20 I have been down to 16. my woods and driver are my strong spots irons are decent I have what I think is a flatter swing, left arm stays below my right shoulder on back swing, it's kind of a 2 piece swing because I do get the club behind me going back but I get it on plane coming into the ball. I have a pro that I work with and he is very good. now the story, this is with irons. August last year I got down to a 16. I try to play without thinking about what my swings doing, one day I had a easy for me chip shot I made the shot the ball took of right, after that I got on a par 3 7 iron in hand, make my swing and boom same thing, this wasn't a slice it was a shank, looked at my club face on both my wedge a 7 and the ball marks were on the hosel. well I finished 2013 in November @ a 24. I didn't even go to the range until March 2014 I started the season with a lot of shanks, that's when I went to see my instructor. at this point I wasn't getting forward on my through swing ( getting forward has allways been a problem for me). after getting forward the shanks stopped. well a couple of normal rounds and a good amount of practice with all my contact being center to toe I ran into the shanks again but this was a weird case like no distance and right. back to the pro. everything in my swing looked good except I was coming into the ball with the face so wide open that my subconscious made the very heel of the club hit the ball. bad thing is I could do this over and over. we worked on grip, mine is weak, even with a stronger grip I was doing the same, we ended the lesson with keeping my head behind the ball more then I usually did and that worked. I have been back to lessons and my biggest complaint I have about my swing I tell my instructor that on the down swing something in my brain dosnt like what's happening when my hands get about waste high. and we do the video taping and other adjustments. some reason I keep reverting to holding my club face open, some times I can put what I know is a great move through the ball and it could be a open face shot towards the toe, I could make a less lower body swing and let my arms fly and hit towards the heel still with a open face. I played this weekend at a longer course then I normally play, warming up and the first six holes I did not like what I was feeling when my hands got waist high on the down swing, I never lost a shot right, but it did loose a couple pulled left, I almost felt like in my set up I was stalling just to get my hands set almost like my hands and brain didn't agree, I was struggling to find my swing, some how and I don't know how I started playing better and got off the course with a 92. pretty darn good for me on that course. here is a picture @ contact. this was taken around sept 2013 I used my phone to video myself when I started to feel this waist high problem. pic left good ball flight, not my best, pic on the right you can see. only thing I can see is that my right elbow is stuck behind me (yes this has been discussed in lessons.) so for free advise what would be your thoughts on what you see in the pics? [IMG]http://www.poolnaround.com/golf/chestswing.jpg[/IMG] thanks Tom

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Tom ( @motsco ),

It would help if you posted a video of your swing in the Members Swings section.  Instructors and lower handicap players may be able to help.  Meanwhile, check out the videos in this thread.

The post on clubface control, below, shows a great drill to do.  As with most drills, you should do them at slower speeds to get used to the change you are attempting to make in your swing.


Also, it could be simply a grip issue.


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