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http://www.golfdigest.com/blogs/the-loop/2014/08/not-everyone-agrees-with-clint.html

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The PGA of America did not receive unanimous approval in presenting former president Bill Clinton its Distinguished Service Award in Louisville on the eve of the PGA Championship Wednesday night.

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Bill Clinton receiving award from PGA of America President Ted Bishop (Getty Images photo)

One dissenter, which ought to come as no surprise, is conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh.

“This is surreal,” Limbaugh said on his show Thursday . “The guy cheats on the golf course, for one thing…I mean, of all the people. You ought to see the people on this list…People like Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer. It's just one of the many things in the stack of stuff today that makes you cock your head and go, ‘what the hell is happening, and what is going on?’

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To be fair, Limbaugh probably wouldn't get unanimous acceptance for a pharmaceutical award either. So it's even.
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http://www.golfdigest.com/blogs/the-loop/2014/08/not-everyone-agrees-with-clint.html

Must've been awfully slim pickings for a candidate last year.  Talk about scraping the bottom of the golf barrel.....

Maybe they're just all cigar smokers. ;-)

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With the last 4 presidents golfers, that would be quite a foursome. Bush Sr., Clinton, GWB and Obama. Bush Sr. and Clinton became good friends. Wonder how that Nassau would pay out?

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Only partisan hacks would have an issue with this. I don't know the criteria but Clinton was twice elected to the highest office in the land and is an avid golfer. That's easily enough to get him this award.

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Only partisan hacks would have an issue with this. I don't know the criteria but Clinton was twice elected to the highest office in the land and is an avid golfer. That's easily enough to get him this award.

Ya, I agree and I'm pretty partisan, although not a hack ;). After the disaster occurring over the past 6 years, I find myself pining for ol Bill. Not as much as I pine for Reagan, mind you. Give him the award.

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Only partisan hacks would have an issue with this. I don't know the criteria but Clinton was twice elected to the highest office in the land and is an avid golfer. That's easily enough to get him this award.

Only a partisan hack would admit to not knowing the criteria for the award while insisting that Clinton deserves it.

Just sayin'.......

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Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
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Only a partisan hack would admit to not knowing the criteria for the award while insisting that Clinton deserves it.

Just sayin'.......


What are you just sayin? I'm saying Clinton deserves it because he was POTUS and an avid golfer. I said not one thing about his politics. I would say the same about GW Bush or his father.

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From the article:

"The Distinguished Service Award is presented annually to “ outstanding individuals who display leadership and humanitarian qualities , including integrity , sportsmanship and enthusiasm for the game of golf.”

I guess, offering the benefit of the doubt, 5 out of 6 is okay, but is it good enough? I would guess the first part of the bold is factored more heavily than integrity when it says "including."

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What are you just sayin? I'm saying Clinton deserves it because he was POTUS and an avid golfer. I said not one thing about his politics. I would say the same about GW Bush or his father.

You went directly to politics when you charged partisanship for anyone that would not agree with Clinton's award, while admitting that you didn't have a clue as to the actual criteria for the award.

Honestly though, the integrity thing notwithstanding, I couldn't care less.

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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You went directly to politics when you charged partisanship for anyone that would not agree with Clinton's award, while admitting that you didn't have a clue as to the actual criteria for the award.

Honestly though, the integrity thing notwithstanding, I couldn't care less.


The OP linked to a comment by a Right Wing radio host. That's where the politics began. But then again, you felt you had to comment on my rather innocuous post.

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The OP linked to a comment by a Right Wing radio host. That's where the politics began. But then again, you felt you had to comment on my rather innocuous post.

Did you even read the link?  Limbaugh's comments made no mention of politics whatsoever.  In fact, as an avid golfer himself, he talked only about the golf and the fact that Clinton is well known to cheat at golf.  Unlike you, Limbaugh questioned the award based on his knowledge of the criteria for the award.  Interestingly, the article continued and gave additional examples that supported Limbaugh's point.

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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I just checked my "give a damn" radar ... nope this award that really means nothing at the end of the day, did not make my radar ... nor does anything Limbaugh has to say ... like Feinstein makes a living  talking about Tiger, Limbaugh has made a living slamming Clinton.

(For the record:  I am not a Clinton fan ... but equally I am not a Limbaugh fan)

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Did you even read the link?  Limbaugh's comments made no mention of politics whatsoever.  In fact, as an avid golfer himself, he talked only about the golf and the fact that Clinton is well known to cheat at golf.  Unlike you, Limbaugh questioned the award based on his knowledge of the criteria for the award.  Interestingly, the article continued and gave additional examples that supported Limbaugh's point.

When you guys say "cheat" do you mean in the Goldfinger sense, where he is trying to win a bet and finds ball out of his pant leg, type of stuff?  Or do you just mean that he takes mulligans and fluffs his lie when he plays casually?

And I'm going to have to agree with @MSchott on this one.

I've looked at the list of past winners and it includes known sadists (Pete Dye ;)) and Vince Gill.  What is Vince Gill known for?  A couple of good country songs, a 2 handicap, and an affair with a Christian singer.

I think maybe people who say Bill Clinton doesn't belong on that list are setting the bar articificially high for SOME reason, just don't know what that could be.

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When you guys say "cheat" do you mean in the Goldfinger sense, where he is trying to win a bet and finds ball out of his pant leg, type of stuff?  Or do you just mean that he takes mulligans and fluffs his lie when he plays casually?

And I'm going to have to agree with @MSchott on this one.

I've looked at the list of past winners and it includes known sadists (Pete Dye ;)) and Vince Gill.  What is Vince Gill known for?  A couple of good country songs, a 2 handicap, and an affair with a Christian singer.

I think maybe people who say Bill Clinton doesn't belong on that list are setting the bar articificially high for SOME reason, just don't know what that could be.

According to the article, Tiger says that he can't, ahem, count......

FWIW, as said before, I really don't care.  I just found it amusing that someone who admitted to not knowing the criteria for the award would accuse someone of partisanship if they didn't agree that an awardee was deserving.

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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It's Bill Clinton, it's an award, he plays golf, he is a popular guy ... he gets award and he says good things about the PGA...

It's all politics ... the award that is.

Not a big deal ... he might come in handy to raise money...

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It's Bill Clinton, it's an award, he plays golf, he is a popular guy ... he gets award and he says good things about the PGA... It's all politics ... the award that is. Not a big deal ... he might come in handy to raise money...

I was actually about to type pretty much the same thing. It's like famous people getting honorary degrees.

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Did you even read the link?  Limbaugh's comments made no mention of politics whatsoever.  In fact, as an avid golfer himself, he talked only about the golf and the fact that Clinton is well known to cheat at golf.  Unlike you, Limbaugh questioned the award based on his knowledge of the criteria for the award.  Interestingly, the article continued and gave additional examples that supported Limbaugh's point.


You can't really think that Limbaugh targeted Clinton because he doesn't play strictly to the rules of golf? Be honest with yourself. Every single comment he makes on his show is political. There is no way in heck he would make that comment if Bush had a similar reputation on the golf course. No fricking way and you know it.

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