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7 hours ago, GolfLug said:

Nothing exposes low point control, and for that matter the general quality of ball striking like tight lies. Lol!

I am at a crossroad. My days of playing with a super strong left hand grip are coming to an end it seems. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to maintain proper face control through impact as the club face naturally wants to turn over. The quality of strike and ball flight difference when I weaken the grip is stark. Problem is a weaker grip is at odds with my poor sore left forearm which I have been nursing for last few days after 3 days of demanding golf. As of now I will continue my 'transition' to a weaker grip with woods and hopefully my forearm will condition as I go along. Maybe someday I'll get to a normal address with irons too. 

Why don't you grip it "open" so you can return your hand to the place where you're comfortable/not sore, but the ball won't go left? It's effectively weaker… without actually "being" weaker?

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

Why don't you grip it "open" so you can return your hand to the place where you're comfortable/not sore, but the ball won't go left? It's effectively weaker… without actually "being" weaker?

A strong grip cups the wrist (lead) and then it wants to flatten through impact, something I used to be able to avoid to keep it from going left and protecting my forearm (the main premise of my set up). Longer the club, harder it is becoming. Either way, yes, I need to transition to gripping it open. 

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  • 1 month later...

The driver swing honestly feels good. Haven't played in a/the course for a bit but did pretty good at the sim place yesterday. 

The idea has been to reduce twisting shaft instinctively at impact. For this have weakened left hand grip considerably. Pushed higher up in the hollow of the palm to take out index finger and thumb in pressure application which is a major are major contributors of shaft twisting at impact. On the flip side, right hand grip is way down in the lower part of the middle fingers. Not using index or thumb much at all. It also is designed to prevent getting underneath the shaft too much at impact. More of a float-loady  'paint the ball' feel through the ball.

Overall address and neutral grip keeps both lead and trail sides on respective sides of the shaft instead of over or underneath the shaft. It seems it allows/promotes moving the shaft/club unit in unison with wrist/elbow/shoulder joints similar to an elephant swinging it's trunk. It does not feel like I am guiding the club path or trying to control club face at all. Fairly organic.

Playing TPC Sawgrass in about a month. Will see how it all holds up. I hear its a good test.. heh.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Butt up against couch pillow and slight wrist 'drop' at start of A4 to A5.

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You need to push into it, not let it push you forward toward the ball.

Stand with your left hip 1" away from a countertop and make a simulated swing there, where your left hip doesn't touch the countertop.

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13 hours ago, iacas said:

Stand with your left hip 1" away from a countertop and make a simulated swing there, where your left hip doesn't touch the countertop.

As seen from a FO perspective, yes?

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50 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

As seen from a FO perspective, yes?

Down the line.

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  • 2 months later...

Trying to feel bit more external rotation of the trail elbow at A4. I think better than what have ever been able to position it.  Forward lunge at impact still a work in progress. 

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  • 1 month later...

Not sure what's different, and FWIW am not working on anything specific. Just flow. Finally a break. Found something last weekend. This is the best I have swung in a few months. Hit 9 fairways last Sundays and 11 yesterday. JIT for peak season..😊

 

 

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