2015 Farmer's Insurance Open (at Torrey Pines) Discussion Thread

[iacas]

Tiger has no chance to make the cut, but for a few days, he'll still drive the discussion.

[David in FL]

Tiger has no chance to make the cut, but for a few days, he'll still drive the discussion.

Well, a comment like that will certainly drive discussion!

My first thought was to disagree with you.  But in thinking about the issues we've seen, the poor control off the tee, and especially the horrible short game, I realize that there isn't a "quick fix" for him.  I won't quite go so far as to say "no chance".....but I'll agree with "doubtful".

I do hope he makes it to the weekend though.  Gotta admit, it's entertaining as hell to watch him around the green these days.

[tmac20]

I'm more interested in the return of Dustin Johnson.

[billchao]

I'm more interested in the return of Dustin Johnson.

Same here. I think he's has a better chance to make the cut than Tiger, we will see.

[iacas]

Well, a comment like that will certainly drive discussion!

I'll amend it.

If Tiger misses two or more GIR per round, he has no chance to make the cut.

[billchao]

I'll amend it. If Tiger misses two or more GIR per round, he has no chance to make the cut. :-)

Does Nike make a chipper? ;-)

[nevets88]

Such negativity. I think he'll break 80! On both days.

[9iron]

The tournament will be great whether Tiger is on the leaderboard or not. The venue is great and the game is great. If someone plays awesome and goes low, it won't really matter who it is, their story will still be compelling.

[Rick Martin]

Does Nike make a chipper?

those don't work either - as an experienced yipper, I can tell you there are a ton of things he can try if things have gotten bad - there are websites dedicated to how to cure the malady as well as neurophysiologists who've tried to explain what's occuring - the yips really present themselves with tight lies, with an audience and can go away for awhile only to show it's ugly face at the worse possible time - and double hits become commonplace......I hope we see TW with a double hit from a tight lie -----but I don't think he's gotten to that point yet.

[nevets88]

Marine Layer Marine Layer Marine Layer

[colin007]

Yeah, Tiger's short game is shakier than Muhammad Ali playing Jenga. He just seems lost, like he has no clue why is not working.

[Rick Martin]

I laughed.....

[Rick Martin]

50-1

Fifty to 1.

That's the number that is next to Tiger Woods' name when the odds for the Farmers Insurance Open hit the electronic board Monday at the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook.

It's a number that the book's assistant manager, Jeff Sherman, doesn't recall ever seeing for Woods -- and Sherman's job of setting golf odds has spanned Tiger's entire career.

"Tiger always commanded money, so the idea was that even though at times it might be a true 80-1 for him to win, he'd still be at 20-1 because people would still bet on him at that," Sherman said.

But Sherman said after Tiger carded an 82 on Friday at the Waste Management Phoenix Open, his worst round as a pro, the odds had to seriously be adjusted for this week's tournament at Torrey Pines.

That's despite the fact Woods has won at Torrey eight times through his career.

"We had to react drastically because there was a really negative reaction to the way he played," Sherman said. "I mean, there will be some people who won't even touch him at 50-1. But we do expect that would be a number where we will have some liability."

Issues with Woods' back led to the golfer making only nine total starts last year. He missed the cut at the PGA Championship in his last official event of 2014 and finished last in his own Hero World Challenge at year's end. Woods hasn't won on the PGA Tour since prevailing at the Bridgestone Invitational in August 2013.

Sherman said he also dropped future odds for Woods, including his odds to win the Masters from 12-1 to 20-1.

Woods was 30-1 to win the PGA Championship last year, the longest odds that were ever placed on Woods in his career.

Sherman posted the odds of Woods winning all four majors this year at 500-1.

"When he was healthy, we'd get people making that bet at 50-1," Sherman said. "So the odds for him to win the Grand Slam are now are 10 times what they were when he was doing well."

Woods' last major win was the 2008 U.S. Open.

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[ChrisP]

What are his odds to make the cut? If they're even odds both way, I'll lay some big lumber on him missing. I don't see him fixing his problems in the matter of days.

[colin007]

What are his odds to make the cut? If they're even odds both way, I'll lay some big lumber on him missing. I don't see him fixing his problems in the matter of days.

Which is shocking, because Torrey is the kind of place that Tiger could play in his sleep and still shoot 68. I'm at a loss.

[Wally Fairway]

Which is crazier odds?

DJ at 30/1

Tiger at 50/1

http://golfodds.com/weekly_odds.html

We've seen Tiger so you kinda have a guess at what you could see, DJ hasn't played since withdrawing from the Canadian Open 7/27, though he did finish T12 the week before at The Open Championship.

[David in FL]

Which is crazier odds? DJ at 30/1 Tiger at 50/1 [URL=http://golfodds.com/weekly_odds.html]http://golfodds.com/weekly_odds.html[/URL] We've seen Tiger so you kinda have a guess at what you could see, DJ hasn't played since withdrawing from the Canadian Open 7/27, though he did finish T12 the week before at The Open Championship.

I don't see either one in contention, but I've got to think that DJ finishes better than Tiger this week....

[skydog]

Tiger is plus-120 to miss the cut. Meaning you bet $100 and win $120 if he misses the cut. This might be the easiest and safest way to double your money in our lifetime.