Playing Golf with Someone Carrying a Weapon

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Why don't you also carry a fire extinguisher and a defibrillator? Those items will save lives.  Add a first aid kit and EpiPen.  They would really come in handy too.  I've have been qualified on advanced first aid and CPR since I was 15 years old.  That is very useful too. To me, much more so than needing to carry a gun on the golf course.

I do have a fire extinguisher, first aid kit and an epi pen at both my home and work. But none of them would save me during a robbery. A handgun is just another tool that can help save your life. Edit- to answer the question, I can't carry a fire extinguisher or defibrillator in my pocket like I can my handgun. That's why I would never "carry" them with me everyday.

[Ringworld]

So then it's OK to carry a handgun so long as I don't ask and you don't tell?

[David in FL]

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

You're assuming facts not in evidence.

I'm making a reasonable inference, based on long, personal experience with firearms and people who carry them.  Those that believe that simply because someone chooses to arm themselves that they're somehow more of a threat to the general public, are the ones that are making a completely unsubstantiated assumption.  Not out of spite, but usually just out of their own ignorance of the subject.

What the hell does this even mean?  Who are you talking about?  Are guns now the only possible way to safely protect you and your family?  Why do you get to decide what defines "whatever is necessary" for people to defend themselves?  And how can you not see that "choosing not to golf with a stranger carrying a loaded gun" IS a thing some people consider defending themselves?

It makes no sense to me that you would be more comfortable around armed golfers than unarmed golfers.  Do you carry on the course?  Do your friends?  I am certainly capable of defending myself. The insinuation that anyone who doesn't own or carry a revolver is incapable or unwilling to defend themselves is silly and insulting.  Are we all supposed to walk around now with side arms?  Should I bring one to work?  To Church?  To soccer games that I coached?

My comment was more of a general comment, less to do with the subject of this thread.  As such, though I absolutely mean it, I'll apologize and withdraw it from this thread because it can only go further OT from here.  We can certainly talk about effective methods of self-defense and appropriate response to any given situation in another thread if someone is interested.

Do you carry on the course?

Yes.  In church and at the movies too.   I carry pretty much everywhere, and have for well over 20 years.  Just as I take my wallet and cell phone with me when I leave the house, even if I'm not planning to go to the store, or make a phone call.  It's simply another item that I carry with me in case I need it.

Pretty much the same reason that I have smoke detectors and a fire extinguisher in the house, even though I've never even known anyone that has had a house fire.  My crystal ball is notoriously fickle, so I tend to believe that with certain things, it's better to have and not need, than to need and not have.  Where some others perceive danger to themselves solely based on the fact that someone else has an item that they're relatively ignorant about, or uncomfortable with, I see nothing more than a wallet or cell phone.  I treat and interact with him just as I would any other stranger.

[rkim291968]

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogielicious

Why don't you also carry a fire extinguisher and a defibrillator? Those items will save lives.  Add a first aid kit and EpiPen.  They would really come in handy too.  I've have been qualified on advanced first aid and CPR since I was 15 years old.  That is very useful too. To me, much more so than needing to carry a gun on the golf course.

I do have a fire extinguisher, first aid kit and an epi pen at both my home and work. But none of them would save me during a robbery. A handgun is just another tool that can help save your life.

Edit- to answer the question, I can't carry a fire extinguisher or defibrillator in my pocket like I can my handgun. That's why I would never "carry" them with me everyday.

Safe to assume you have a bullet proof car?  Alarm for your house?  Plenty of insurances - fire, flood, hurricane, meteor strike, ... - to cover all occasions?    Pardon me for saying but you sound a tad paranoid on your posts.   If you were the stranger with loaded gun in golf car in this thread, I would definitely make some excuses to play with another group.

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Safe to assume you have a bullet proof car?  Alarm for your house?  Plenty of insurances - fire, flood, hurricane, meteor strike, ... - to cover all occasions?    Pardon me for saying but you sound a tad paranoid on your posts.   If you were the stranger with loaded gun in golf car in this thread, I would definitely make some excuses to play with another group.

I sound a bit paranoid?? Because I carry a handgun daily? Once again niavity and ignorance rears its ugly head. Bulletproof vehicles? Does that sound practical or financially prudent? Meteor insurance? Now you're just making up silly shit. And yes, I do have a home alarm, and a dog, and insurance for fire, wind and flood damage. I live in an area that a decent amount of crime. In 2012 we were ranked the 15th most dangerous city in the U.S. and in 2013 we were ranked 21st. "With a crime rate of 167 per one thousand residents, Myrtle Beach has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes- from the smallest towns to the very largest cities," NeighborhoodScout explains. Myrtle Beach comes in at number 21 on the list of the most dangerous cities. While Atlanta, Baltimore, Cleveland, Chicago and Paterson fall much higher on the list. Out of a crime index with 100 being the safest, Myrtle Beach holds a 0, making it safer than 0 percent of other U.S. cities. Even more alarming is NeighborhoodScout's statistic that while living in Myrtle Beach there is a 1 in 7 chance that you will become a victim of a property crime such as burglary or motor vehicle theft.

[David in FL]

Edit- to answer the question, I can't carry a fire extinguisher or defibrillator in my pocket like I can my handgun. That's why I would never "carry" them with me everyday.

Question:  Why do you carry a gun?

Answer:  Because a cop is too big!

[Gunther]

Question:  Why do you carry a gun? Answer:  Because a cop is too big! :-)

You are a better man than I, sir, and I salute you.

[Ernest Jones]

Why don't you also carry a fire extinguisher and a defibrillator? Those items will save lives.  Add a first aid kit and EpiPen.  They would really come in handy too.  I've have been qualified on advanced first aid and CPR since I was 15 years old.  That is very useful too. To me, much more so than needing to carry a gun on the golf course.

Great post! Wish I had come up with that!

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Great post! Wish I had come up with that!

How exactly is that a great post? It's absolute absurd to think someone would walk around carrying a fire extinguisher and a defibrillator. It's just plain stupid. I understand the concept of exaggeration for sake of argument, but this post is just silly.

[Ernest Jones]

How exactly is that a great post? It's absolute absurd to think someone would walk around carrying a fire extinguisher and a defibrillator. It's just plain stupid. I understand the concept of exaggeration for sake of argument, but this post is just silly.

How about an epipen? For some of us the concept of carrying a loaded gun on the golf course is no more ludicrous than carrying a defibrillator. Unlikely we'll ever all see eye to eye on this, and that's ok. Different strokes.

[rkim291968]

Bulletproof vehicles? Does that sound practical or financially prudent?

Sounds to me it is a must feature according to your description of Myrtle Beach.   I recommend you to sell your golf gear, and return the club membership and invest in a good bullet proof windows on your car.   Your safety first before your golf.   If you can't afford the bullet proofing your car, with so much crime in the area, I strongly recommend that you don't play golf with strangers.  Who knows what criminals are frequenting the same golf course, and they may have bigger loaded guns in their golf cart?

It's Friday before a long holiday weekend.  TGIF.

[David in FL]

Sounds to me it is a must feature according to your description of Myrtle Beach.   I recommend you to sell your golf gear, and return the club membership and invest in a good bullet proof windows on your car.   Your safety first before your golf.   If you can't afford the bullet proofing your car, with so much crime in the area, I strongly recommend that you don't play golf with strangers.  Who knows what criminals are frequenting the same golf course, and they may have bigger loaded guns in their golf cart?

It's Friday before a long holiday weekend.  TGIF.

And it sounds as if you've started the, ahem....... celebrating a little early!

How about an epipen?

For some of us the concept of carrying a loaded gun on the golf course is no more ludicrous than carrying a defibrillator.

Unlikely we'll ever all see eye to eye on this, and that's ok. Different strokes.

I also carry an epipen, for my daughter.  Very prudent.

Like a gun, and unlike a defibrillator, it's also small and relatively convenient to do so.

[rkim291968]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

How about an epipen?

For some of us the concept of carrying a loaded gun on the golf course is no more ludicrous than carrying a defibrillator.

Unlikely we'll ever all see eye to eye on this, and that's ok. Different strokes.

I also carry an epipen, for my daughter.  Very prudent.

Like a gun, and unlike a defibrillator, it's also small and relatively convenient to do so.

You guys made me google these stuff b/c I couldn't even spell them.   My golf bag is too heavy (I carry 14 clubs + extra hat, 9 balls, 4 ball markers, towel, ....) to carry them.

To MyrtleBeach - Sorry, you may have missed my sarcasm in my posts.  Friday before a long weekend made me do that.   No need to sell your clubs for a bullet proof car windows.

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Sounds to me it is a must feature according to your description of Myrtle Beach.   I recommend you to sell your golf gear, and return the club membership and invest in a good bullet proof windows on your car.   Your safety first before your golf.   If you can't afford the bullet proofing your car, with so much crime in the area, I strongly recommend that you don't play golf with strangers.  Who knows what criminals are frequenting the same golf course, and they may have bigger loaded guns in their golf cart?    ;-)   It's Friday before a long holiday weekend.  TGIF.

That's not MY description of MB. That's the people who rank the U.S. 100 most dangerous cities description.

[turtleback]

For some of us the concept of carrying a loaded gun on the golf course is no more ludicrous than carrying a defibrillator.

Many people actually DO carry defibs around with them on the golf course.  In their chests.  So that is not ludicrous at all.

And they put the defib in your chest so you are never without it.  Because you do not know when your heart might just stop.  Just like you might not know when you just might need to defend yourself or others.  I wonder which there are more of, victims of violent crimes or people who went into cardiac arrest?

[jusanothajoe]

Many people actually DO carry defibs around with them on the golf course.  In their chests.  So that is not ludicrous at all.

And they put the defib in your chest so you are never without it.  Because you do not know when your heart might just stop.  Just like you might not know when you just might need to defend yourself or others.  I wonder which there are more of, victims of violent crimes or people who went into cardiac arrest?

You called my six pack analogy silly, and now your talkin about pacemakers. lol

[turtleback]

You called my six pack analogy silly, and now your talkin about pacemakers. lol

So you still do not get the difference between things that occur instantly and a risk that can only become a risk after a half hour of drinking, which was the point and why the six pack analogy was silly and the defib is not, but OK.

[jusanothajoe]

So you still do not get that one mans point is another mans silly post

Fixed it