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"Moving the needle" and Rory vs. Rickie vs. Tiger

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ChrisP
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That's a great way to put it. I couldn't agree more. The game needs its stars to be up there. Ratings are important for the game, whether you like it or not. We want to see our game marketed and cover

Fourputt
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You know, we get it.  You can't stand Tiger.  You've never said a decent word about him since you've been here.  That doesn't alter the fact that he is the one player whose name is known and recognize

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If Tiger hadn't been in the hunt, I wouldn't have been watching.  Glad I did because in the end I was pulling for Davis, one of the guys from my era.

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Me neither.


I think it started as a Ryder Cup thing... or a European Tour thing ... Euro

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Gunther Great Member

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No question - has nothing to do with our collective "ego" in the US. In most walks of society, we Americans will refer to Brits, Irishmen, Scots, Spaniards, etc. Golf is the only place I can think of where the term Euro is used in a general way, unless we're talking coin, of course.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

I think it started as a Ryder Cup thing...

No question - has nothing to do with our collective "ego" in the US. In most walks of society, we Americans will refer to Brits, Irishmen, Scots, Spaniards, etc. Golf is the only place I can think of where the term Euro is used in a general way, unless we're talking coin, of course.

Americans as a whole refer to countries as a collective continent rather than the individual country itself...

Especially with Africa.  Maybe not as much with Western Europe.

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most general statements are false ... :-)

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pumaAttack Great Member

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most general statements are false ...

Again, I would say Western Europe is excluded from this.

Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe are not.

But none of that matters as I don't think Nationality matters at all with moving the needle for golf.

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To say collectively that all Americans do this or that is just as wrong.  We aren't a homogeneous group either.

When it's appropriate, I will distinguish a persons nationality or ethnicity.  I think that for posting purposes, it's easier to write "Euro" than it is to write "Irishman", especially when posting from a phone.  I don't see any slight intended, and I don't see it as some silly American ego thing either.

Then too, it's better to look lazy by typing Euro than to look stupid by calling Rory a Brit, which I've also seen done on a golf forum.

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ScouseJohnny Great Member

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Then too, it's better to look lazy by typing Euro than to look stupid by calling Rory a Brit, which I've also seen done on a golf forum.

Well, technically..... but God help me, that's a can of worms I don't want to open on a golf forum. So let's just say that he qualifies for both a British passport and a Republic of Ireland passport. I have no idea which one he has (maybe he has both), and I don't care one way or the other.

Off topic: The American use of the term "Brit" amuses me. It often seems to be used as a general euphemism for Englishmen and Welshmen, but not Scotsmen or Northern Irishmen. Sometimes Americans use the term "London" to cover more than just denizens of that city, too. I'm an Englishman living in the US but people are mostly as confused as hell by my accent, apart from one drunk guy in a bar who once shouted "Ringo!" at me very loudly. To be fair, some others have guessed accurately, too, but less dramatically.

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Well, technically..... but God help me, that's a can of worms I don't want to open on a golf forum. So let's just say that he qualifies for both a British passport and a Republic of Ireland passport. I have no idea which one he has (maybe he has both), and I don't care one way or the other.

Off topic: The American use of the term "Brit" amuses me. It often seems to be used as a general euphemism for Englishmen and Welshmen, but not Scotsmen or Northern Irishmen. Sometimes Americans use the term "London" to cover more than just denizens of that city, too. I'm an Englishman living in the US but people are mostly as confused as hell by my accent, apart from one drunk guy in a bar who once shouted "Ringo!" at me very loudly. To be fair, some others have guessed accurately, too, but less dramatically.


Rory is from Northern Ireland so doesn't qualify for a Republic of Ireland passport.

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Rory is from Northern Ireland so doesn't qualify for a Republic of Ireland passport.

Off topic: But you are 100% wrong. Since 1956 the Republic of Ireland has extended Irish citizenship to anyone born on the island of Ireland, including the six counties in the north which fall under UK jurisdiction. There were slight revisions made to this policy for people born after 2005, but the Irish government's own website states the Irish citizenship and passport policies for people born in Northern Ireland very clearly: http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Frequently%20asked%20Questions%20about%20Irish%20Citizenship%20and%20Naturalisation#Q2

Sorry for making this off-topic post, and I shall certainly refrain from commenting on this again. But it annoys me when I see completely erroneous material spouted on internet forums as "fact."

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Isn't "American" just as generic.

I mean we aren't the only country in the "Americas"

Exactly....

People generally use broader terms when referring to nations.  It's nothing wrong or malicious, it just happens.  Thats all I was trying to say.

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Fair point. What do you refer to you self as then?

[quote name="pumaAttack" url="/t/82048/moving-the-needle-and-rory-vs-rickie-vs-tiger/60_30#post_1144153"] Coloradoan.  :) [/quote] Interesting ... I refer to myself as a Texan ... but I currently reside in Az ... Or more generically an American by birth, Texan by the grace of God

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