Slice turned into a hook!

[diw1515]

Slice now a hook! Hi guys, started playing semi seriously a few weeks ago after being a twice annual player for the last few years. Started doing a bit of reading on how to play the game and very quickly realised I wasn't even holding the club or standing in remotely the right position! Anyway, initially, like many others, I had a wicked slice which got worse the longer the club I had in my hand although I put that down to completely altering my grip and just get used to changing my stance. Fast forward a few weeks and quite a few rounds, I now seem to have developed a wicked hook. Again, it gets much worse the longer the club in my hand. From 7 iron down I am absolutely fine but with 4 iron and driver it's a nightmare. Any ideas on why my slice/hook gets worse with longe clubs and how I have graduated from a slice to a hook? I know for sure my grip should be more neutral, I have my right hand almost on the back of the club. I will hooefully post a video very soon

[mvmac]

Yeah start a swing thread, could be any number of things going on.

[EverythingGolf]

Where is the ball starting before it hooks?

[diw1515]

comes off the club majorly left and then goes straight Ultimately goes major left obviously

[EverythingGolf]

It starts left then curves left or it starts left and stays straight?

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

It starts left then curves left or it starts left and stays straight?

Sounds like he's saying he hits a straight pull. Starts left and goes straight (in a left direction).

[rehmwa]

easy - take whatever you changed, and do half of that.

I'm happy to help...

[diw1515]

To update, it's a really nasty hook I'm getting only really when I tee the ball up. Long irons and hybrid are the main culprit. Maybe tee the ball lower? Standing little too close to the ball? I can head one dead straight one hole and violently left the next hole, like waaaaaaay left a total goner not even going looking for it

[diw1515]

To add, it comes off left and then swings left. Rarely happens when hitting the same clubs from the fairway or rough Also think I may be standing too close the ball and making a really steep swing meaning I need a perfect or lucky contact

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

To add, it comes off left and then swings left. Rarely happens when hitting the same clubs from the fairway or rough Also think I may be standing too close the ball and making a really steep swing meaning I need a perfect or lucky contact

If you are hitting a pull hook, you are swinging across the ball, from outside-in and you have the club face very closed. The club face is facing further left than your swing path. Is your grip strong?

[iacas]

If you are hitting a pull hook, you are swinging across the ball, from outside-in and you have the club face very closed. The club face is facing further left than your swing path. Is your grip strong?

Generally speaking, we don't know that to be true (though in this specific case it's 99% likely since he previously sliced the ball).

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Generally speaking, we don't know that to be true (though in this specific case it's 99% likely since he previously sliced the ball).

Right. The only fact we really know is that his club face is pointed left and his swing path is right of that. His path could be just about anywhere. But as you pointed out, considering it was a slice and now is a pull hook, he's most likely swinging out to in with a very shut club face.

[rehmwa]

I had a real issue with hitting off the tee vs the ground also for a long time (sometimes it rears its ugly head).  I was setting up very differently and didn't even know it (checking the stance vs a fairway shot, etc is something to look at)  - best to get someone to take stealth pics of you during a roud.  I also noted poor pressure transfer too.  It's so mental.

[gms08]

I had a real issue with hitting off the tee vs the ground also for a long time (sometimes it rears its ugly head).  I was setting up very differently and didn't even know it (checking the stance vs a fairway shot, etc is something to look at)  - best to get someone to take stealth pics of you during a roud.  I also noted poor pressure transfer too.  It's so mental.

I agree 100%. A lot of times, I over-analyze when in the tee box. Tee height, stance, ball placement--the list goes on.

Some things I've tried that have helped:

- loosen your grip - allow that face to come through square

- make sure your tempo is controlled

- tee it low and let it go

- when all else fails, quit thinking about it, GRIP IT AND RIP IT

[diw1515]

Went to the range tonight and hit my Adams v4 hybrid (4 iron). Out of 50 balls maybe 1 or 2 snap hooks, decent amount straight and starting hooking it a bit later on. Started straight and drifted left Was trying to open up the club face and start my hands in front of the ball Think my problem might be over rotating the shoulders and causing my to swing through and past the ball rather than squaring up shoulders and going through the ball straight Any feedback apprieicated Should add I felt much more at ease hitting it off the mat, was getting too much height from the tee. Felt good connection hitting from the mat and even mis hits were going 125-150

[diw1515]

And to add, i did used to have a strong grip but now it is more neutral. Seems like it might be my right hand getting over the club on downswing that might be putting me left? When I feel if at the back and supporting the club on the downswing the and pushing through the ball that's when I feel the best strike Or is that total rubbish?

[mvmac]

To update, it's a really nasty hook I'm getting only really when I tee the ball up.

Long irons and hybrid are the main culprit.

Maybe tee the ball lower?

Standing little too close to the ball?

I can head one dead straight one hole and violently left the next hole, like waaaaaaay left a total goner not even going looking for it

And to add, i did used to have a strong grip but now it is more neutral.

Seems like it might be my right hand getting over the club on downswing that might be putting me left? When I feel if at the back and supporting the club on the downswing the and pushing through the ball that's when I feel the best strike

Or is that total rubbish?

I think it's time you started a swing thread. Going to much easier to help you that way than to guess what is happening.

http://thesandtrap.com/f/4180/member-swings

[Jameson]

My slice is starting to driving me crazy, if I give up golf, it will be just because of my slice with the driver!!