2015 British Open at St. Andrews Discussion Thread

[Gettin Better]

I don't know how u guys in the States are seeing The Open .. when we get from feed of a US event it's CONTINUALLY interrupted by the programming going to a table with commentators grabbing about the golf amongst themselves, chatting to old golfers, sponsors, Faldo, continually showing the status of the FEDEX list, plugging the Snoopy balloon sponser and going off with adverts where we then get the Leaderboard and now and again you see a bit of golf... Don't u guys get frustrated with it.? ??. The golf coverage we get over here is GOLF GOLF AND GOLF .. no darned commenters ... I sure prefer this way...

[Zeph]

I really enjoy the coverage from this tournament. The lack of expert panels talking and interviewing people is a positive thing in my opinion.

What's the club Spieth teed off with there? Looked like a utility/ironhybrid with graphite shaft.

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Terrible stat. A golfer could miss every green in regulation and get up and down for par 18 times and he would have 1.0 putts per hole.

Oh come on. Clearly that's not the case with DJ. He bombs it off the tee and has wedges into holes. I know you are explaining HOW that stat could be misleading. But your example doesn't fly in this case.

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

That stat tells you nothing about how good a putter he is. Strokes gained putting is the best putting statistic.

Nothing? Then why does it even exist?

[DeadMan]

Oh come on. Clearly that's not the case with DJ. He bombs it off the tee and has wedges into holes.

I know you are explaining HOW that stat could be misleading. But your example doesn't fly in this case.

Are you really saying that putts per hole tells you more about someone's putting than strokes gained?

Nothing? Then why does it even exist?

Because there was no other way to do putting stats until about 2005.

[Rick Martin]

A lot of these posters here don't pay much attention to the European tour - equate to the Web.com tour.....so they've never heard of several of these players including Willett.

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Are you really saying that putts per hole tells you more about someone's putting than strokes gained? Because there was no other way to do putting stats until about 2005.

That's not what I said at all. All I'm saying is that everyone knocks DJ for being a horrible putter of the golf ball. If you've watched any of his rounds of golf other than the final round at the U.S. Open you would see it's an unfair knock. Guy is rolling it very nicely this week so far. That's my point. And stats can be misleading, all of them can be, as saevel25 pointed out with his extreme example.

[Zeph]

Don't care for the Norwegian commentator though. He keeps yapping on about how Schwartzel looks like he's dying of cold. It's 13 ºC and windy, let them stay warm.

[Elrey Desol]

I don't know how u guys in the States are seeing The Open .. when we get from feed of a US event it's CONTINUALLY interrupted by the programming going to a table with commentators grabbing about the golf amongst themselves, chatting to old golfers, sponsors, Faldo, continually showing the status of the FEDEX list, plugging the Snoopy balloon sponser and going off with adverts where we then get the Leaderboard and now and again you see a bit of golf...

Don't u guys get frustrated with it.? ??.

The golf coverage we get over here is GOLF GOLF AND GOLF .. no darned commenters ... I sure prefer this way...

[wrong thread]

now imagine if Tiger was in contention.

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[RJH999]

MATSUYAMAAAAA.

[nevets88]

No wonder that sweater was so damn ugly. It's ancient. I understand sentimentalism but yuck.

[DeadMan]

That's not what I said at all. All I'm saying is that everyone knocks DJ for being a horrible putter of the golf ball. If you've watched any of his rounds of golf other than the final round at the U.S. Open you would see it's an unfair knock. Guy is rolling it very nicely this week so far. That's my point. And stats can be misleading, all of them can be, as saevel25 pointed out with his extreme example.

Well, you've watched him when he's playing better. And with a guy like him, he'll shoot lower scores when he putts better. So you're basically taking above average rounds for him (which only happen when he putts well) and saying he's a good putter when the stats don't bear that out.

[RJH999]

They sure do like Louis

[bubble]

and claping poor shots is band aid a sponsor ?

[Golfingdad]

A lot of these posters here don't pay much attention to the European tour - equate to the Web.com tour.....so they've never heard of several of these players including Willett.

That's absurd.

The only thing I can think of that might be more perplexing than that would be if there were, say, any posters here who didn't even play golf.

[RJH999]

Wow, three putt bogeys for Johnson, Spieth, AND Matsuyama. :doh:

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Well, you've watched him when he's playing better. And with a guy like him, he'll shoot lower scores when he putts better. So you're basically taking above average rounds for him (which only happen when he putts well) and saying he's a good putter when the stats don't bear that out.

Fair enough, he's an average putter. Certainly not a horrible putter.

[ChrisP]

These guys are going to have a rough last 6 or 7 holes here. You've got that brutal storm coming in, you're going to get very little sleep tonight...winds supposed to tropical storm force in the morning. The wind is what killed Tiger Woods' grand slam chances...it may be killing Jordan's as well.