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Higher Handicap Because of Terrible Putting

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Bkuehn, i honestly cant say for sure, one thing i do know is, seems to me that as soon as something goes wrong i spend the rest of the round trying to fix it and never seem to get back on track

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Bkuehn, i honestly cant say for sure, one thing i do know is, seems to me that as soon as something goes wrong i spend the rest of the round trying to fix it and never seem to get back on track

Unless it's a practice round, I would suggest that you don't make changes on the course? Actually, even at a practice round is a terrible place to make swing changes. Probably best to make any changes on the range or at some practice facility?

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Unless it's a practice round, I would suggest that you don't make changes on the course? Actually, even at a practice round is a terrible place to make swing changes. Probably best to make any changes on the range or at some practice facility?


@Lihu , you were right about being asked to stay on topic… but in the wrong thread. :)

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The process of putting always struck me as one of the least athletic activities in sports.  Putting requires no great strength or timing. The actual movement for almost everyone is a fairly simple back and forth of the putter...  If there are any people out there who would be willing to share their story, I would really like to understand what the issues are... But for the average avid golfer who plays regularly, puts in some practice time and plays a typical public-access course, how does one not become competent enough to get by with something under 36 putts?

If there are any people out there who would be willing to share their story, I would really like to understand what the issues are.

I agree with your assessment for the "average avid golfer."

As for my story.... We used to have a plaid rug in the family gameroom. It was the absolute best practice aid that I could ever hope for. I would put my indoor practice cup on the line and practice "straight back and straight through" on my putting stroke. I then took that stroke to the course and made a lot of putts in the 3-6 foot range. Then we had a sewer backup in the neighborhood and it came into our gameroom. We had to replace the rug, and no matter how much I begged my wife for a plaid one, she rejected my pleas. My short putting has never been the same.

The story continues... When I was younger, I guess I was like a lot of public course golfers. You could attack the cup and not really worry a lot about a comeback putt. Then as I got older, (and lost my plaid rug), my short putting was not as reliable. I then resorted to becoming a lag putter. My rationale was simple. I wanted to eliminate the 3 putt from my game and lag putting was the best way to do it. (NOTE: practicing bocce is a great way to help your lag putting.)  I have been keeping detailed stats since 2009 and in the last 6+ years I am averaging 31.9 putts per round.

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Iacas, for me i feel its distance control but only on short to mid putts like between 4-15ft, ive always considered myself a lag putter, i seem to do better than most i play with on the big breakers, or the really long ones, im sure it has something to do with mental stuff too, its not uncommon for me to freeze up and come up 4ft short on a 12 footer

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Better players here will attest to this, if they 3 putt it's usually after hitting GIR. You won't see many 3 putt doubles from half decent golfers.

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Iacas, for me i feel its distance control but only on short to mid putts like between 4-15ft, ive always considered myself a lag putter, i seem to do better than most i play with on the big breakers, or the really long ones, im sure it has something to do with mental stuff too, its not uncommon for me to freeze up and come up 4ft short on a 12 footer


If it's mental, that thread may not help you much at all.

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To the topic at hand, and to @bkuehn1952  ...please answer the question: which of the three keys do you lack the most? Do you lack all of them?

Neither putting - nor the solution to your putting problems - is all that difficult.

Actually I think I am a very competent putter.  I was really curious as to why players with the ability to consistently drive a long ball in play could not translate that ability to other parts of their game.  Over the past couple years I have seen any number of players describe superb tee to green games yet they seemingly flop completely once on or near the the green.  Like a 50% 3-point shooter averaging under 50% from the free throw line.

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Actually I think I am a very competent putter.  I was really curious as to why players with the ability to consistently drive a long ball in play could not translate that ability to other parts of their game.  Over the past couple years I have seen any number of players describe superb tee to green games yet they seemingly flop completely once on or near the the green.  Like a 50% 3-point shooter averaging under 50% from the free throw line.

Not for nothing, but… I think a lot of people are also a bit delusional about how good their long game is.

Averaging over 35 putts is bad, though, at almost any handicap level.

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Not for nothing, but… I think a lot of people are also a bit delusional about how good their long game is.

Right, we've had several bogey golfers on the site post that they were good ballstrikers.

And a ton of guys who think they consistently hit it inside 15 ft from 100 yards.

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My guess is higher handicap golfers probably 1 putt about as often they 3 putt due to missing so many greens.

My GG stats from inside 100 is 72% inside 15 yards. Of the remaining 28% 14% are short and most of it is greenside chips and pitches.

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Ok, yesterday i shot an 84, with 41  feel thats the biggest seperation from my game.

Wasn't it you that asked about why there is so much testosterone?

An honest appraisal of your game is required.

Putting may well be the least of your problems.

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Ok, yesterday i shot an 84, with 41  feel thats the biggest seperation from my game.

Wasn't it you that asked about why there is so much testosterone?

An honest appraisal of your game is required.

Putting may well be the least of your problems.

Why the comments? Is it that it is unrealistic for a 10HC to shoot an 84 with 41 putts, and that this implies that he would have to have gotten around 11 GIR assuming 10-par4, 4-par 5 and 4-par 3?

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Sure but how much does that matter when the first putt is 15' instead of 65'.

There is a good possibility I'd probably 2 putt it at 65' or 15'. For some reason my 2nd putt is usually on point even if I mess up my first putt, maybe it has to do with seeing the ball roll IDK, but I could have a longer 2nd putt and probably make it, I just know its going in.

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Hey shorty, why are you going off subject to insult me, you know nothing of my game, i simply stated my score! I know my game and where i need work, thats why im in the putting forum! Now, do i have to ask, or do we all know why your called shorty, lol

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Hey shorty, why are you going off subject to insult me, you know nothing of my game, i simply stated my score! I know my game and where i need work, thats why im in the putting forum! Now, do i have to ask, or do we all know why your called shorty, lol

On a par 72 course with a standard setup, you would have had to hit 11 GIR to shoot an 84 with 41 putts . Statistically, that's a little too good for a 10 handicap.

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Why the comments? Is it that it is unrealistic for a 10HC to shoot an 84 with 41 putts, and that this implies that he would have to have gotten around 11 GIR assuming 10-par4, 4-par 5 and 4-par 3?


It would be highly unusual that's for sure for anyone to have a lopsided great ball striking day and horrible putting day simply because of abundance of better than average opportunities.

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My guess is higher handicap golfers probably 1 putt about as often they 3 putt due to missing so many greens.

Actually, it may not be.  Missing so many greens mean he can get it closer (than GIR case) by chipping.  I think this is 'a' reason I average 31+ putts/total.   My ratio between 1 putt vs 3 putt is more like 4 or 5 to 1.

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