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No problem. Let me be clear, I don't think you should be moving the ball away from you. Now that I see your iron swing it is just the opposite, you should be taller at setup and the ball should be closer. I was saying before with driver you should move the ball back, and essentially you would have to back up to realign. That's irrelevant now as the real issue is more pronounced with irons, it was harder to see in your driver swing. Seeing your swing close up now it's obvious your issue is simply a kind of "slapping at the ball" action. Again a great swing. You're close to fine, but being hunched and far from the ball is causing your club to cut under the ball a bit. You're not getting as many grooves into impact as you can, and not maximizing compression. Just stand taller and get the ball a little closer, try to get more of a compression shot rather than an undercutting. You should feel it right away.  Look at the picture comparing you and Rory at impact. It really sticks out there. See how he is basically on top of the club. You aren't on top of the club enough and you are kind of sitting back like in a chair position. This is an easy fix, you'll probably see improvement immediately. Gotta get out of the chair position into a more athletic standing position and get on top of impact more.

Regarding what you said about the setup:

You do have the ball too far forward now. As you say you corrected having too much shaft lean at set up. You need to put the ball back to the middle of your stance more, but without the shaft lean. This is what I was getting at before, you can have the ball in the middle, without the shaft being overly forward. You will have to relax your left arm and keep the shoulders square, not open. As I said before, a slight open club face is great too.

 

Regarding the weight distribution: You are feeling on your toes because of the posture issue I mentioned. You're in a sitting position and need to get more of a standing and solid position. Because you're sitting you may have been going to your toes to compensate, and now being on your heels feels more balanced, but you're not getting enough compression either way as we see in the impact photo. Really being on the balls of the feet should be the only comfortable position you can make a swing in, in which you are balanced to a full finish. It shouldn't take much experimenting, if you have the right posture, the most balanced position where you aren't falling in either direction is on the balls of the feet. Closing your eyes can help to get balanced. Feel like the club is hanging into the ground. Not reaching out to the ball. Kuchar basically hangs over the ball at address. 

 

The posture fix and ball position fix will give you a lot of improvement especially in regards to compression. Look forward to seeing how it looks.

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@Tindalla24, I'd be careful from whom I take advice. I haven't read a lot of your thread, but I see @saevel25 said something and that @mvmac agreed with it. I'd go down that road before I'd go down any road @Golfer2223 is pitching.

Note: I haven't read what @Golfer2223 has said, either. I'll fully admit it. If it's different than what @mvmac suggests or likes, I'd be cautious.

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

but I see @saevel25 said something and that @mvmac agreed with it. I'd go down that road before I'd go down any road @Golfer2223 is pitching.

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6 hours ago, Golfer2223 said:

You're in a sitting position and need to get more of a standing and solid position.

Posture looks good to me.

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Let me go further and simplify more as I'm really starting to digest this swing. 

Yes feel free to experiment with advice and be cautious and verify as you will. If you're open to experimenting you can always play around with things and see how it feels, throwing out what you may. Again you have a great swing so take this analysis I'm about to make as simply a hypothetical towards better golf.

It's possible tindalla your swing is perfect and the best it can be, obviously looking at fred couples swing there is plenty to play around with, but it doesn't need any tweaking. Golf is very mental. That said most pro golfers take the club back on plane or outside the plane slightly, though there are many exceptions (Sergio). In your swing you clearly get a little below the standard plane, or flat, then it sets nicely at the top. On the through swing the club is pretty much on plane maybe a little outside the backswing plane. Many pros do this move also, although it is commonly taught to take the club back on a more outside plane than you bring it down (Scott). So you can always play with that. I just noticed somewhat of a lack of compression so I feel like getting taller may tweak the backswing plane more out and flatten the downswing plane slightly and give you some extra leverage. That's what I see between you and Rory is a difference in club leverage. On your thru swing the club kind of cuts under the ball slightly instead of coming over it. Most great golfers almost seem to slam down on the ball with assertion, even if they are ascending through impact with driver***. This is a funny concept but i believe it's the piece you might be looking for. Think of Rory hitting a drive, his club is coming down towards the ball, then it starts to flatten out and ascend into the ball, but what are Rory's hands and body doing? His hands are driving DOWN, not around or underneath. The hips and shoulders angle upwards slightly to get the club ascending, but the hands are always driving through. I feel that your hands might not be driving through as aggressively. Getting the club a little flatter on the thru swing will definitely make that happen, the question is how to get there if you go down that road.

So simply put I think you may want to try standing a little taller and allowing the club to go straighter back. This might give you a flatter descent and put you more on top of the shot like Rory. Just my thoughts after watching your swing several times. If you post more videos or try this out we can see a difference and go from there. The more established members can always see if it looks better from there as well. Just a thought.

last thought on posture:

mcmac is right that it looks good, maybe i am nit picking. That is a better posture than most golfers but I see a lot of great postures. you lean into the ball a bit with your shoulders and it puts some bend in your back, as well as a very very slight reaching out of the arms. Either way sitting or leaning you could try getting a little taller. Lifting your head slightly might achieve some of this new feel. I would narrow the stance a little first and then try to keep the back and shoulders taller. Try it, you might like it.

Just trying to be of help, again i think you have to try things out and see what fits. If you try it and you find you need some lean or taking the club back a little flat to get full power and feel then stick with that. World class golfers do these things, sometimes the muscles work together better from different positions. I always find the more moves i try the more sure i become of what works. Personally i have a slightly upright setup, and if i bend at the hips more it i don't hit it nearly as well. But i wouldn't know unless i tried. Now i can be confident in my "wrong" setup!

 

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