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6 hours ago, Mike Boatright said:

So what is an S posture?

Too much anterior pelvic tilt. You can see an "S" shape in your back from the DTL view. Puts too much stress on the lower back during the golf swing.

Sorry, I'm a little busy today. If you want to know more, just read the thread I linked or just Google it.

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Folks. Please refrain from being snarky and condescending in someones swing thread. These threads are ONLY about helping forum members improve regardless of conversations in other threads. Be respectf

In fact, people who sway tend to turn their hips less, and thus have smaller torso turns than those who properly turn their hips relatively "in place."

"Change Your Body, Change Your Swing" (a book - try Amazon) Flexibility Relax during the swing

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Here is a stop position I've been working on as a a centered turn feel. Te me it feels like no turn,or just a static feel with little to no resistance but I't keeps my head steady. I will throw in a stop 6 iron and a full swing 6 iron with a driver swing probably with a sway as it's harder to stay centered.

I think it looks better just making sure it's correct and I'm working on the right thing. I don't want to put effort into something if I'm doing it wrong.

 

The video is a 3 swing compilation.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Mike Boatright said:

Here is a stop position I've been working on as a a centered turn feel. Te me it feels like no turn,or just a static feel with little to no resistance but I't keeps my head steady.

I would set up with a slight more tilt in your spine away from the target. (green line) You want to turn around that green line to the top of the backswing.

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You probably need to turn your hips more earlier in the backswing. You move the arms too much with too little hip turn. This causes you to get a full 90 degree turn with your arms at just past A3. (see below)

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You end up overturning to past parallel and get into this position. Notice the arch look in your back at the top. Basically your spine at the top is slightly tilted towards the target.

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From this position you will have a tendency to have the head shift away from the target in the downswing. See how your head starts near the bulls eye above in the dart board. Now it's shifted a good 4 inches away from the target.

Keeping your spine on that green incline allows you to drive that right side through and keep up the turn rates in the downswing. When your head slides back it causes your hips to stall in turning and you get too much lateral shift through impact.

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I would narrow the stance a tad. That is a pretty wide stance for a long iron and even a 3-wood.

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10 hours ago, saevel25 said:

eeping your spine on that green incline allows you to drive that right side through and keep up the turn rates in the downswing. When your head slides back it causes your hips to stall in turning and you get too much lateral shift through impact.

How do I do this without returning to the ball in the same position?

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6 minutes ago, Mike Boatright said:

How do I do this without returning to the ball in the same position?

The issue isn't primarily the head being there. It's that the head starts closer to the target at A4 and then falls away from the target at impact. It's better to just get your setup slightly on a tilt away from the target and turn around that spine angle. That way it's not so bad if your shifts slightly forward on the downswing. 

 

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2 hours ago, saevel25 said:

The issue isn't primarily the head being there. It's that the head starts closer to the target at A4 and then falls away from the target at impact. It's better to just get your setup slightly on a tilt away from the target and turn around that spine angle. That way it's not so bad if your shifts slightly forward on the downswing. 

 

I very much agree that's that hook and push move that I hate. Even with my sway my head was so far off the ball That it essentially eliminated that miss.

How do I get into this position at the top and still return it to square if I start tilted from the get go? Rory is rock solid perfect and is probably why he is able to go into the ball with speed and less effort. You notice at set up he is angled back and has a good amount of shaft lead how important is that? Again How do I set up like this and return it to square without blocking or hooking the ball Meaning If I start angled back I will return it angled back and what looks like to me the face would be pointed dead right and chunk the ball! Angled back like this  \

 

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Here is Rory,


A1 - Setup
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A4 - Top of backswing
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8 hours ago, Mike Boatright said:

Again How do I set up like this and return it to square without blocking or hooking the ball Meaning If I start angled back I will return it angled back and what looks like to me the face would be pointed dead right and chunk the ball! Angled back like this

Fix your swing path. Set up has very little to do with hooking or blocking the ball. If your head tilts back it can cause you to have a more outward swing path. The more forward you get and the more open you get the more likely the swing path will get more towards neutral.

You will not chunk the ball if your head is in that position and if you get your weight forward at impact.

 

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Iv'e noticed in my videos that I get to wristy on my takeaway and bring it to far inside or underneath which is a huge problem in my swing. Iv'e tried the braced takeaway but it feels awkward. Is there any drills I can incorporate to make this more natural?

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2 hours ago, Mike Boatright said:

Iv'e noticed in my videos that I get to wristy on my takeaway and bring it to far inside or underneath which is a huge problem in my swing. Iv'e tried the braced takeaway but it feels awkward. Is there any drills I can incorporate to make this more natural?

How about you work on what you believe is your priority instead of hopping from quick fix to quick fix?

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1 hour ago, Mike Boatright said:

This is in the my swing thread I didn't post this here? My question was whats a good drill to get a less wristy and more one piece takeaway any ideas chief?

Yeah, I know. I moved it here.

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8 hours ago, Mike Boatright said:

My question was whats a good drill to get a less wristy and more one piece takeaway any ideas chief?

I can point out a bunch of things I don't like in my swing but the way to improve is to focus on a priority piece. With your swing, getting "less wristy" isn't a priority, your pivot is. Also fixing the pivot may improve the takeaway, domino effect.

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It's been interesting to read this - as someone who's trying to make similar changes (notably the head movement) and has a swing thread of their own that's a similar length to yours. The one obvious thing that stands out is that the same thing has been suggested to you so many times and it's taken until page 9 before you actually produce a swing where it even remotely looks like you've addressed the hip sway (it does happen, regardless of whether you accept it or not).

Do yourself a favour - you've been given so much good advice and drills, but you haven't committed to the process. I really hope this isn't in vain, but try this:

  1. Do the drills slowly - try to hit a 7 iron about 90 yards at most and emphasise the feeling. Use a mirror as well if that helps. The advantage of the mirror is that it's instant feedback. The advantage of the camera is that it shows you the ideal angle to compare to what you see/are told on here.
  2. Record yourself doing them slowly.
  3. Watch it back - if you're anything like me, I bet you any money that you are still making the same mistake.
  4. Do the drills again, slowly and really emphasise your priority piece.
  5. Watch it back again and keep working at it. Even once you can do it at slow speeds, it won't translate into your full swing.
  6. Keep working at it and keep checking the video - stick with it, it won't be easy.
  7. Don't try to post every day or twice a day- change won't happen that easily.

Above all though, why not post videos here of you doing the slow motion drills? Based on what I'm seeing (and I could be wrong), you're taking up a fair chunk of time and goodwill from others but you aren't serious in acting on it. As a teacher myself, I'd be pretty hacked off if a student asked me to look over the same thing ten or fifteen times without putting in the effort to implement my suggestions. I see no reason why this should be different.

Look, I don't want this to be negative - you clearly have the makings of a decent swing, good power and co-ordination. You'll be amazed at how much better you get in a short period of time if you listen to the guys on here; they know what they're on about. Good luck, and I really hope that there are more videos of slow-mo or drills down the line. :-)

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On 4/6/2016 at 1:35 PM, b101 said:

It's been interesting to read this - as someone who's trying to make similar changes (notably the head movement) and has a swing thread of their own that's a similar length to yours. The one obvious thing that stands out is that the same thing has been suggested to you so many times and it's taken until page 9 before you actually produce a swing where it even remotely looks like you've addressed the hip sway (it does happen, regardless of whether you accept it or not).

Do yourself a favour - you've been given so much good advice and drills, but you haven't committed to the process. I really hope this isn't in vain, but try this:

  1. Do the drills slowly - try to hit a 7 iron about 90 yards at most and emphasise the feeling. Use a mirror as well if that helps. The advantage of the mirror is that it's instant feedback. The advantage of the camera is that it shows you the ideal angle to compare to what you see/are told on here.
  2. Record yourself doing them slowly.
  3. Watch it back - if you're anything like me, I bet you any money that you are still making the same mistake.
  4. Do the drills again, slowly and really emphasise your priority piece.
  5. Watch it back again and keep working at it. Even once you can do it at slow speeds, it won't translate into your full swing.
  6. Keep working at it and keep checking the video - stick with it, it won't be easy.
  7. Don't try to post every day or twice a day- change won't happen that easily.

Above all though, why not post videos here of you doing the slow motion drills? Based on what I'm seeing (and I could be wrong), you're taking up a fair chunk of time and goodwill from others but you aren't serious in acting on it. As a teacher myself, I'd be pretty hacked off if a student asked me to look over the same thing ten or fifteen times without putting in the effort to implement my suggestions. I see no reason why this should be different.

Look, I don't want this to be negative - you clearly have the makings of a decent swing, good power and co-ordination. You'll be amazed at how much better you get in a short period of time if you listen to the guys on here; they know what they're on about. Good luck, and I really hope that there are more videos of slow-mo or drills down the line. :-)

Iv'e been taking it seriously. I hit about 400 balls played 36 holes and really tried to implement this method. I haven't posted any videos of me doing this,but I have worked on it to an extent. I will keep posting videos of my swing and look for new feedback on other things. I'm not overly concerned with a baby sway right now vs what I am concerned about is a more connected takeaway and balance that's about it. Last night I was got 114 mph with my old 45 inch driver and same sway move so for me i'll stick with it on tee shots and not on iron shots.

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