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@DeadPoets, I think you misunderstood.

This topic isn't the GG topic, and we try to keep things pretty much on topic here.

I assure you, we like to talk about swing mechanics, theoretical or otherwise… just in the proper place.

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1 minute ago, iacas said:

@DeadPoets, I think you misunderstood.

This topic isn't the GG topic, and we try to keep things pretty much on topic here.

I assure you, we like to talk about swing mechanics, theoretical or otherwise… just in the proper place.

That's fair.

And btw, maybe I misunderstood your response to me earlier.  But were you saying that you've "largely gone away from those moves" (like holding a tray)?  

Or that you've gone away from drills like the one you posted in your YT video in 2016? Because that looks like an awesome drill (unless of course it never translated at full speed).

 

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3 minutes ago, DeadPoets said:

And btw, maybe I misunderstood your response to me earlier.  But were you saying that you've "largely gone away from those moves" (like holding a tray)?  

Holding a tray is a killer for me, yeah. I'm trying to feel much less right wrist extension. My right wrist gets highly extended when my elbow gets too narrow. I wasn't feeling "holding a tray" in the video you've posted twice now, no.

3 minutes ago, DeadPoets said:

Or that you've gone away from drills like the one you posted in your YT video in 2016? Because that looks like an awesome drill (unless of course it never translated at full speed).

I've gone away from those drills. At any speed, the wrists will not "move" the clubhead like shown in that video.

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Coming back to this thread I feel like most of us who struggled with this came from the place where the backswing was nowhere near steep enough. I’m not saying that’s for everyone but a lot of golfers could improve by making their backswing steeper. 

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This is a great video bound to help a lot of people out there. I came to a somewhat similar conclusion a while back but this one really is good IMO.

 

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Steepen your body to shallow if you're standing up and steepening. Forces you to shallow. I guess if your arms are going out, this will force your arms to drop behind.

 

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That hand throwing drill breaks my brain a bit, in terms of how awkward it feels, but if you get it right how fricken flush you can hit the ball. For me, since I threw the hands away, all I do is just turn and good things happen. I really do hate it 😛. I think I have always been more of a hitter of the ball. throwing my hands like that is like the complete opposite of what I have been doing. Maybe that is why it feels awkward and is why I know when I do it correctly. 

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7 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Steepen your body to shallow if you're standing up and steepening. Forces you to shallow. I guess if your arms are going out, this will force your arms to drop behind.

 

I don't really agree with that video at all.

Many who EE do so because it will tip the shaft back underneath. Many who swing over the top add bend in transition as they throw their hands out over the top.

It's more the opposite of what he said than what he said, IMO. Can someone do the things he says? Yeah, of course. Do most people? No, they do the opposite.

5 hours ago, saevel25 said:

That hand throwing drill breaks my brain a bit, in terms of how awkward it feels, but if you get it right how fricken flush you can hit the ball. For me, since I threw the hands away, all I do is just turn and good things happen. I really do hate it 😛. I think I have always been more of a hitter of the ball. throwing my hands like that is like the complete opposite of what I have been doing. Maybe that is why it feels awkward and is why I know when I do it correctly. 

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It's FREAKING WEIRD, I agree.

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