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I have a putter with the name SCOTTY stamped on it. It has nothing to the Cameron series. 

It was a cheapie sort of putter, but had an important use in a certain situation. I would sometimes golf with a work friend who was a better golfer than I, all things considered. He was not bashful to tell others how good his game was. 

That SCOTTY putter was my equalizer. When I would impact the ball with it, it would give off a tone, much like a tuning fork does. This tone irritated my friend so much, that his putting game suffered to the extent,  that if I had a good day putting, he was buying at the 19th. I only used it when I played him. :-D

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33 minutes ago, 9wood said:

I found a Pro V1 and a cheaper Maxi Fli ball, and for me the cheaper Maxi Fli ball out performed the Pro V1 - that's the truth. I guess some balls are better suited for certain players as are some putters. 

How exactly did you determine the Max Fli outperformed the Pro V1, did you do an objective analysis (you compared them head to head on a simulator) or was it subjective (you used a Pro V1 you found during a round) and didn't like how it performed. 

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18 minutes ago, newtogolf said:

How exactly did you determine the Max Fli outperformed the Pro V1, did you do an objective analysis (you compared them head to head on a simulator) or was it subjective (you used a Pro V1 you found during a round) and didn't like how it performed. 

The Maxi Fli out distanced the Pro V1 and had better all around feel. Matter of fact, of all the Pro V's I have ever tried I have never been satisfied. I have found that many other balls perform and feel better than Pro V's, at least for my game. My normal ball which seems to suit me best is the Top Flite Gamers which I buy on sale for $30 for 2 doz. 

But we're getting off track of the OP a bit now

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1 hour ago, DutchGolf said:

@9wood if I put a brand new Pro V1 next to a random cheap ball I found in the trees, what differences are we going to see? I think we hardly see any differences. Still people pay a lot more for Pro V1s than for lakeballs, and a lot of Pro V1s are being sold every day. Why do people buy Pro V1s if they do not look that different? Are those people stupid? I don't think so. People buy them for materials, performance, feel and even for the brand and status. Not everything is in the looks.

Here's a random "lake ball" I found then hit recently. The shell peeled off from a hybrid strike. At first, I thought I duffed it, but it still went almost the right distance.

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I keep it in my bag just in case an opponent needs a ball :-D

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1 hour ago, 9wood said:

The Maxi Fli out distanced the Pro V1 and had better all around feel. Matter of fact, of all the Pro V's I have ever tried I have never been satisfied. I have found that many other balls perform and feel better than Pro V's, at least for my game. My normal ball which seems to suit me best is the Top Flite Gamers which I buy on sale for $30 for 2 doz. 

But we're getting off track of the OP a bit now

You'd be the first person I know who feels this way. Most people think they're painted rocks . :-D

 

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27 minutes ago, Lihu said:

You'd be the first person I know who feels this way. Most people think they're painted rocks . :-D

 

Another member of this forum (Vangator) whom I haven't see any posts from in awhile, also had a lower opinion of Pro V's

But once again, the OP was about putters, not balls.

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22 minutes ago, 9wood said:

But once again, the OP was about putters, not balls.

Yes, please stay on topic guys.

@9wood if you like your putter, that's fine. If other people want to pay thousands of dollars for their putters, so what? Why does that seem to bother you?

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9 minutes ago, billchao said:

Yes, please stay on topic guys.

@9wood if you like your putter, that's fine. If other people want to pay thousands of dollars for their putters, so what? Why does that seem to bother you?

If you read my posts carefully, you will not see where I said it bothers me. I honestly don't care how much cash a person is willing to shell out for a putter. The only thing I wanted people to do was to look at both putters in the OP and tell me what noticeable difference they can spot in the expensive putter vs. my cheapo putter. 

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5 minutes ago, 9wood said:

If you read my posts carefully, you will not see where I said it bothers me. I honestly don't care how much cash a person is willing to shell out for a putter. The only thing I wanted people to do was to look at both putters in the OP and tell me what noticeable difference they can spot in the expensive putter vs. my cheapo putter. 

To what end?

Congratulations. You have a putter that's so ugly I wouldn't even donate it to the First Tee, that virtually nobody would buy at a yard sale, that is likely made of lousy materials with little to no real quality control.

One putter most people would say is ugly. The other most people would say is beautiful.

That's the difference, and I don't get what kind of game you're playing at here.

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3 hours ago, 9wood said:

Look at both putters.

Now other than price, tell me what noticeable differences do you see

The difference is that one is worth $2 and the other >$500.

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5 minutes ago, iacas said:

To what end?

Congratulations. You have a putter that's so ugly I wouldn't even donate it to the First Tee, that virtually nobody would buy at a yard sale, that is likely made of lousy materials with little to no real quality control.

One putter most people would say is ugly. The other most people would say is beautiful.

That's the difference, and I don't get what kind of game you're playing at here.

Do you really have to insult me for asking an honest question? I asked you in an earlier post, to point out the noticeable difference between my putter and the expensive putter and you give me insults to an honest question which I am merely trying to get an answer to. My putter may be ugly to you but it works just fine for me. 

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15 minutes ago, 9wood said:

Do you really have to insult me for asking an honest question? I asked you in an earlier post, to point out the noticeable difference between my putter and the expensive putter and you give me insults to an honest question which I am merely trying to get an answer to. My putter may be ugly to you but it works just fine for me. 

An "honest" question? More like a 'point out the obvious to me while I pretend it isn't" question.

 

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6 minutes ago, 9wood said:

Do you really have to insult me for asking an honest question?

I don't think it's an honest question.

There are very clear differences, as well as those that require only a little bit of knowledge.

6 minutes ago, 9wood said:

I asked you in an earlier post, to point out the noticeable difference between my putter and the expensive putter and you give me insults to an honest question which I am merely trying to get an answer to. My putter may be ugly to you but it works just fine for me. 

I didn't insult you. Certainly no more than this thread insults the intelligence of those who have read it… You don't think this thread feels a bit troll-y, at this point?

Cool. Your putter works for you. I'm glad for you. Truly.

But… you might also be the only person on this forum who would play with that putter, and you have no idea whether another putter would work better for you.

So again, I ask you… to what end? Why are you asking?

Because people have given actual answers. Here's a few more:

  • One is made from better materials.
  • One is from a brand name associated with great putters.
  • One is a collector's item.
  • One has paint on it, while the other has dirt and crud.
  • One is either brand new or close to it. The other is not.
  • One is beautiful to many. The other is ugly to many.
  • One would fetch more money from people. Even those who have never golfed in their life would pay more for one than the other.

None of those answers satisfied you.

1 minute ago, SavvySwede said:

An "honest" question? More like a 'point out the obvious to me so while I pretend it isn't" question.

Seriously.


I can play this game!

What's the difference, guys?

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Cuz I don't know! Enlighten me, please!

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3 minutes ago, 9wood said:

If you read my posts carefully, you will not see where I said it bothers me. I honestly don't care how much cash a person is willing to shell out for a putter. The only thing I wanted people to do was to look at both putters in the OP and tell me what noticeable difference they can spot in the expensive putter vs. my cheapo putter. 

You cared enough to start a thread about it.

The two putters are likely made of different materials, weigh different, and are balanced differently. I bet the two feel completely different when you swing them.

The Scotty has higher manufacturing tolerances and has collector's value. Your putter looks like the alignment aid on top isn't even lined up with the alignment aid on the back. I'd be willing to bet the Scotty has a flatter face.

They look similar, but there are differences in the shapes. The material behind the heel and toe of both putters, for example. And the lie angle appears to be different, but it is hard to tell for sure.

Your putter is dirty AF :-P

Like I said, you cared enough to start the thread, so it seemed like you were trying to make a point about how your putter was somehow the same as the Scotty. Functionally, maybe. But value? That depends on who is looking at it. The Scotty has little value to you, but it has lots of value to someone else I'm sure.

Neither putter has any value to me. I wouldn't pay thousands of dollars for that Scotty nor would I want your putter if you were giving it to me for free. But then I putt with a mallet with six nickels glued to the bottom of it.

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I'm sorry I started this thread

I sincerely asked an honest question. I was not playing a game or trolling. I sincerely wanted to know why my $2 putter that looks similar in style, shape and design and works great would cost $3,497 dollars less than the expensive putter which looks similiar to mine. I mean I can see if a putter with a good brand name on it might possibly cost someone $150, but $3,499? I sincerely don't get it.

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3 minutes ago, 9wood said:

I sincerely asked an honest question. I was not playing a game or trolling. I sincerely wanted to know why my $2 putter that looks similar in style, shape and design and works great would cost $3,497 dollars less than the expensive putter which looks similiar to mine. I mean I can see if a putter with a good brand name on it might possibly cost someone $150, but $3,499? I don't sincerely don't get it.

For the same types of reasons that this painting is worth $87M to someone.

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Question for you: Why does the one car here cost 10x as much as the other?

 

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6 minutes ago, 9wood said:

I sincerely asked an honest question. I was not playing a game or trolling. I sincerely wanted to know why my $2 putter that looks similar in style, shape and design and works great would cost $3,497 dollars less than the expensive putter which looks similiar to mine. I mean I can see if a putter with a good brand name on it might possibly cost someone $150, but $3,499? I sincerely don't get it.

If you honestly do not get it then I do not know how you have made it through to your old age.-Some things are worth more and your putter looks like a piece of junk.

Stop pushing your value system on others.-If someone wants to spend a month paycheck on a putter good for them. If someone thinks your putter is not worth using as a fire poker good for them.

But count me among those who do not think there was anything honest about this thread-Cuz if it was honest I have to wonder how you got through life to your 60s.

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3 minutes ago, 9wood said:

I'm sorry I started this thread

I sincerely asked an honest question. I was not playing a game or trolling. I sincerely wanted to know why my $2 putter that looks similar in style, shape and design and works great would cost $3,497 dollars less than the expensive putter which looks similiar to mine. I mean I can see if a putter with a good brand name on it might possibly cost someone $150, but $3,499? I sincerely don't get it.

You were given multiple answers, did you read them?  A Scotty Cameron 009 is a collectors item, they are only made for tour players in very limited production runs.  The 009 is based off the Newport head that most people could buy for $350, but there are still differences between the two heads and again the 009 is a collectors item.  

Most Anser style putters look similar but just because they look similar doesn't mean they are the same.  Putters are made with different types of steel, some are milled, others are cast, different tolerances are used.  If you look closely, which is why many of us think you're trolling, you can see there are obvious differences in how the putter is constructed.  

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