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I can only imagine the original gold Apple Watches are going to get insanely valuable in a few years now that they don't sell them anymore.

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On 9/9/2016 at 10:21 PM, iacas said:

Really? Infinitely more useful?

It's a pretty darn small screen, you realize… It's good for little things. Quick things. Notifications.

I love it for that… but that's about all it's good for.

I love and wear my Watch every day. But I still use my phone for the "bigger" tasks. Like any time I have to type anything… Or want to read something.

 

I want the ability to use it as a stand-alone phone in a variety of situations where leaving my regular phone at home would be convenient. When I'm at the gym, going for a run, at an amusement park, camping, at the beach, or when I am simply looking to unplug from the distraction of a smartphone without losing all connectivity to the outside world. 

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Just now, Braivo said:

I want the ability to use it as a stand-alone phone in a variety of situations where leaving my regular phone at home would be convenient. When I'm at the gym, going for a run, at an amusement park, camping, at the beach, or when I am simply looking to unplug from the distraction of a smartphone without losing all connectivity to the outside world. 

And I'd like it to weigh nothing and just be able to project light miraculously wherever I wanted it at the time…

The point is that if you added a cell phone to a watch, at this point, the tradeoffs would lead to an overall worse product for most people. Shorter battery life, bigger phone, another SIM card and/or charge per month on your bill… etc. Plus who really wants to talk to their watch? You look like a douche after more than a 10-second conversation. If you don't need your phone, leave your phone at home.

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13 minutes ago, iacas said:

And I'd like it to weigh nothing and just be able to project light miraculously wherever I wanted it at the time…

The point is that if you added a cell phone to a watch, at this point, the tradeoffs would lead to an overall worse product for most people. Shorter battery life, bigger phone, another SIM card and/or charge per month on your bill… etc. Plus who really wants to talk to their watch? You look like a douche after more than a 10-second conversation. If you don't need your phone, leave your phone at home.

 

I get it, my wishes are sometimes quirky and don't mesh with the public at large. I see some android watches now come with sim cards, fwiw. I agree, it would likely make the apple watch a worse product. I still may get one, I was just hoping it could do a few more things without being tethered to the phone.

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Since the watch has the ability to pair with bluetooth headphones it's the perfect thing to have when you want to leave your phone behind when you go for a run, or even golf.   What I like about it is that I can leave my phone in the bag but still get notifications on my wrist.

I'm not a big phone talker so I don't really care that it can't make calls.   However I frequently text by talking to Siri on my watch.  It usually works well and it's great for the course where I don't have to pull my phone out.

I have a 6 Plus iPhone, I love the screen, but I would never keep it in my pocket while I play because it is bulky to carry.  The best thing about fall is that jackets have pockets.

In fact for the core functions that I use the phone for, I can get the notifications that I need with my phone within bluetooth range.  Now considering that wifi HW keeps getting more compact, I could see untethering from the iPhone with a wifi Apple watch.  Since connecting wifi networks is generally one time and you can re-connect to networks, anytime you are around a known wifi it could connect and then instead of a phone network, you get everything thru standard wifi.

I don't know how much bigger the watch would have to be for wifi, but it's a neat idea.

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1 hour ago, imsys0042 said:

I don't know how much bigger the watch would have to be for wifi, but it's a neat idea.

Wifi is a module. Meaning it is a package with multiple chips inside. They have a 2 (maybe more) different chips that have different functionality. They are usually big. From the iPhone 6s the orange block is the wifi module. 

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You can see they are pretty big. Probably not yet watch size. Easier target is GPS. Also a chipset but can be made smaller.

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8 minutes ago, mchepp said:

Wifi is a module. Meaning it is a package with multiple chips inside. They have a 2 (maybe more) different chips that have different functionality. They are usually big. From the iPhone 6s the orange block is the wifi module. 

Screen Shot 2016-09-12 at 9.12.49 AM.png

You can see they are pretty big. Probably not yet watch size. Easier target is GPS. Also a chipset but can be made smaller.

Hmm....  Gonna need a bigger wrist....

Thanks for the info.   That's quite interesting.

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18 minutes ago, mchepp said:

Wifi is a module. Meaning it is a package with multiple chips inside. They have a 2 (maybe more) different chips that have different functionality. They are usually big. From the iPhone 6s the orange block is the wifi module. 

Screen Shot 2016-09-12 at 9.12.49 AM.png

You can see they are pretty big. Probably not yet watch size. Easier target is GPS. Also a chipset but can be made smaller.

There's a new wifi chip out that uses only one antenna and is only 5mm x 5mm.  It's a bit more expensive than the chip Apple uses in their phones but it could work within a watch.  

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