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I just got back from our annual Myrtle Beach trip, had a great time though some of the courses were pretty beat up from Hurricane Matthew.  

Day 1:  Caledonia
I was disappointed that we started the trip off in Caledonia as it's a pretty tough course and is more enjoyable as a final course but we didn't have a choice.  The course was in good condition but some holes were still recovering from the flooding and damage from Matthew.  Despite all the hot weather and sun MB has had, the course was still soggy and they enforced 90* cart access on holes that even allowed carts onto the fairways which made for a long, heavy walking day of golf.  We averaged walking about 8 miles while still riding in carts.  The fairways were in pretty good condition but still soft which reduced roll out on shots, so you had to club up if you expected to be near your target.  The greens were in good shape but tough, they rolled fairly true and fast but pin placements felt like they were set by a sadist.  I shot a 96 which I was disappointed about until I saw the results of how everyone else did at end of first round I was in 3rd place out of 12 guys ranging in handicap from 14-25 guys.  

Day 2:  Heritage
Heritage was very damaged by floods and there was some concern we wouldn't be able to play the last 3 holes due to flooding from high tides as the water tables are still very high.  Driving around the course you could really see the damage this area took from the storm.  Huge trees were uprooted and a number of houses were damaged from the floods and fallen trees.  I had very low expectations for the course as it was the last of the four we'd picked to play to reopen after the storm but overall I was happy with the course condition.  The fairways were open for carts and while still a little soft seemed to provide more roll out than Caledonia.  Heritage is a good course but overall it's not one of the really memorable courses in MB.  I would have preferred Heritage first as it played a bit easier except for the greens.  The greens, due to flooding were very inconsistent, ranging from very slow to very fast and there were little visible signs (at least to me) of which were which until you actually putted.  While they were inconsistent with speed, they did roll fairly true, but we all struggled with 3 putts here.  I shot a 95 and when we tallied up the scores, i held onto 3rd place though some were closing the gap on the top 3.

Day 3:  Litchfield
Litchfield was by far the worst course we played.  Despite their claims that they suffered little damage from Matthew, the course was in horrible shape.  Fairways looked like they had been hit by mortars and the greens were in unplayable.  For those who never played Litchfield, my advice is don't.  It's a course that they crammed into a housing development, there are 12 doglegs on the course which depending on the tees you play from (we played one up from whites due to overall group handicap) completely negates any advantage you have from distance.   I tried using my driver on first hole and hit through the fairway OB, which started me with a snowman and it didn't get much better.  On many of the holes I had to tee off with a hybrid (which I never do at home course) and it just got into my head.   I don't mind a few doglegs but 12 doglegs and 4 par 3's, left 2 holes that had some straight fairways on them and those had hazards which put you in risk if you took driver off the tee.  I feel pretty confident that I'd have scored much lower if we played from tees further back.  The putting greens were like putting on berber carpet, the ball bounced around the surface and made putting anything more than 1' more about luck than skill.  The entire group hated this course and we agreed to never play it again.  I shot a 102, mostly due to 3 putts and 1 4 putt but also because I was very inconsistent off the tee. Some people did better given the shorter distances and I dropped to 6th overall at the end of the round.  

Day 4:  Pawleys Plantation
Pawleys imo is a cross between a real golfers course and a gimmicky course.  Jack designed the course and I think he had better players in mind when he did.  Fairways were tight to very tight and on holes where they were wider, Jack stuck a big tree or huge sand trap in the middle.  The 13th hole is a Par 3 69 yard hole to a peninsula green.  The green is small and they were rolled so they were not receptive to anything but a high flop shot with little spin.  To compound problems the fringe was cut short so any ball rolling toward it with a little speed would roll right off the other side.  Every golfer in our group put their tee shot into the water, I landed on the green but rolled off, most landed short and in the water, the best score on this hole for 12 golfers was a 5, most took double par.  The course was in good shape though we were surrounded by reminders of the devastation with downed trees and cut lumber on the sides of almost every fairway.  It's a fun, challenging course but you have to know your yardages plus have good distance control as Jack punishes you severely if you're too short or long on your approach shots.  Based on rating and slope, this was the toughest course we played and while most liked the course they were annoyed by the 13th hole and that left them with mixed feelings overall about the course..  I shot a 99 which was  good enough for me to finish 4th overall (I missed 3rd by one stroke) for the weekend, out of the money, but significantly higher than I had in years past.    

Overall I was a bit disappointed by my scores given I'd been shooting low 90's and high 80's the weeks leading up to this weekend but I realized that those scores reflect my familiarity with my home course and it's relative ease compared to some of the courses we played.  The biggest difference between these courses and my home course was the rough.  My home course rough is thick but not plush, the rough on every course we played in MB was like a thick high piled carpet.  We actually lost balls because the rough was so deep and plush you couldn't see your ball if it was down deep in it. We all struggled trying to hit anything but a iron out of it when the ball was in deep and we were lucky to get 35% of our typical distance distance with any particular club.  

We stayed in townhouses on Pawleys Plantation that were outstanding.  Our house was a 3 bedroom with a large living area, kitchen and screened in porch.  It easily fit the 5 over us that stayed there.  The other house we rented was a 4 bedroom and housed the other 7 guys with plenty of room to spare.  Murrells Inlet has some great courses but night life is lacking.  We tried the Marsh Walk, and some other areas but the area just shuts down after 10 pm so if you're with a group of guys that like to party I'd suggest you stay north or buy a lot of booze to drink where you're staying.  If you want some good food, we ate at Piccolos Italian restaurant, great food and they have an outside dining area which was perfect for our somewhat rowdy group.  Another good hangout is Frank's, a nice upscale menu with large outside bars make it a fun place to eat and relax after dinner.  Everyone that goes to Murrells Inlet visits the Marsh Walk but beyond it being made famous from the reality series, "Party Down South" it's disappointing and the restaurants we visited there were subpar so I won't bother mentioning them.  

Next year we plan to play courses in northern MB which we haven't done in the 3 years I've been going on this trip so it should be different.  I stayed north over 20 years ago and remember it being a pretty wild area with lots of places than men can get into trouble.  If anyone has courses suggestions for that area, please let me know.  

 

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23 minutes ago, iacas said:

Have you played the Barefoot courses, or the Legends courses?

I played the Legends courses 20 years ago when I had no idea how to swing a golf club so I have no real memory of them.  would you recommend them?  

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21 minutes ago, newtogolf said:

I played the Legends courses 20 years ago when I had no idea how to swing a golf club so I have no real memory of them.  would you recommend them?  

No idea. We're considering playing there this spring break.

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9 hours ago, iacas said:

No idea. We're considering playing there this spring break.

The Dye Course at Barefoot was really good (I'd play that one again and I'm not a huge Dye fan) and I've heard nothing but good things about the other courses.  Everyone tells me to go back and play the Love course.

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2 hours ago, jsgolfer said:

The Dye Course at Barefoot was really good (I'd play that one again and I'm not a huge Dye fan) and I've heard nothing but good things about the other courses.  Everyone tells me to go back and play the Love course.

We played the four at Barefoot last year.

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12 hours ago, newtogolf said:

I played the Legends courses 20 years ago when I had no idea how to swing a golf club so I have no real memory of them.  would you recommend them?  

I would recommend them. Our annual trip of 28 players have stayed and played there every year since 2001.

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4 minutes ago, coachjimsc said:

I would recommend them. Our annual trip of 28 players have stayed and played there every year since 2001.

I started a thread on it here if you have some thoughts, Jim:

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On 11/1/2016 at 9:01 AM, newtogolf said:

I just got back from our annual Myrtle Beach trip, had a great time though some of the courses were pretty beat up from Hurricane Matthew.  

Day 1:  Caledonia
I was disappointed that we started the trip off in Caledonia as it's a pretty tough course and is more enjoyable as a final course but we didn't have a choice.  The course was in good condition but some holes were still recovering from the flooding and damage from Matthew.  Despite all the hot weather and sun MB has had, the course was still soggy and they enforced 90* cart access on holes that even allowed carts onto the fairways which made for a long, heavy walking day of golf.  We averaged walking about 8 miles while still riding in carts.  The fairways were in pretty good condition but still soft which reduced roll out on shots, so you had to club up if you expected to be near your target.  The greens were in good shape but tough, they rolled fairly true and fast but pin placements felt like they were set by a sadist.  I shot a 96 which I was disappointed about until I saw the results of how everyone else did at end of first round I was in 3rd place out of 12 guys ranging in handicap from 14-25 guys.  

Day 2:  Heritage
Heritage was very damaged by floods and there was some concern we wouldn't be able to play the last 3 holes due to flooding from high tides as the water tables are still very high.  Driving around the course you could really see the damage this area took from the storm.  Huge trees were uprooted and a number of houses were damaged from the floods and fallen trees.  I had very low expectations for the course as it was the last of the four we'd picked to play to reopen after the storm but overall I was happy with the course condition.  The fairways were open for carts and while still a little soft seemed to provide more roll out than Caledonia.  Heritage is a good course but overall it's not one of the really memorable courses in MB.  I would have preferred Heritage first as it played a bit easier except for the greens.  The greens, due to flooding were very inconsistent, ranging from very slow to very fast and there were little visible signs (at least to me) of which were which until you actually putted.  While they were inconsistent with speed, they did roll fairly true, but we all struggled with 3 putts here.  I shot a 95 and when we tallied up the scores, i held onto 3rd place though some were closing the gap on the top 3.

Day 3:  Litchfield
Litchfield was by far the worst course we played.  Despite their claims that they suffered little damage from Matthew, the course was in horrible shape.  Fairways looked like they had been hit by mortars and the greens were in unplayable.  For those who never played Litchfield, my advice is don't.  It's a course that they crammed into a housing development, there are 12 doglegs on the course which depending on the tees you play from (we played one up from whites due to overall group handicap) completely negates any advantage you have from distance.   I tried using my driver on first hole and hit through the fairway OB, which started me with a snowman and it didn't get much better.  On many of the holes I had to tee off with a hybrid (which I never do at home course) and it just got into my head.   I don't mind a few doglegs but 12 doglegs and 4 par 3's, left 2 holes that had some straight fairways on them and those had hazards which put you in risk if you took driver off the tee.  I feel pretty confident that I'd have scored much lower if we played from tees further back.  The putting greens were like putting on berber carpet, the ball bounced around the surface and made putting anything more than 1' more about luck than skill.  The entire group hated this course and we agreed to never play it again.  I shot a 102, mostly due to 3 putts and 1 4 putt but also because I was very inconsistent off the tee. Some people did better given the shorter distances and I dropped to 6th overall at the end of the round.  

Day 4:  Pawleys Plantation
Pawleys imo is a cross between a real golfers course and a gimmicky course.  Jack designed the course and I think he had better players in mind when he did.  Fairways were tight to very tight and on holes where they were wider, Jack stuck a big tree or huge sand trap in the middle.  The 13th hole is a Par 3 69 yard hole to a peninsula green.  The green is small and they were rolled so they were not receptive to anything but a high flop shot with little spin.  To compound problems the fringe was cut short so any ball rolling toward it with a little speed would roll right off the other side.  Every golfer in our group put their tee shot into the water, I landed on the green but rolled off, most landed short and in the water, the best score on this hole for 12 golfers was a 5, most took double par.  The course was in good shape though we were surrounded by reminders of the devastation with downed trees and cut lumber on the sides of almost every fairway.  It's a fun, challenging course but you have to know your yardages plus have good distance control as Jack punishes you severely if you're too short or long on your approach shots.  Based on rating and slope, this was the toughest course we played and while most liked the course they were annoyed by the 13th hole and that left them with mixed feelings overall about the course..  I shot a 99 which was  good enough for me to finish 4th overall (I missed 3rd by one stroke) for the weekend, out of the money, but significantly higher than I had in years past.    

Overall I was a bit disappointed by my scores given I'd been shooting low 90's and high 80's the weeks leading up to this weekend but I realized that those scores reflect my familiarity with my home course and it's relative ease compared to some of the courses we played.  The biggest difference between these courses and my home course was the rough.  My home course rough is thick but not plush, the rough on every course we played in MB was like a thick high piled carpet.  We actually lost balls because the rough was so deep and plush you couldn't see your ball if it was down deep in it. We all struggled trying to hit anything but a iron out of it when the ball was in deep and we were lucky to get 35% of our typical distance distance with any particular club.  

We stayed in townhouses on Pawleys Plantation that were outstanding.  Our house was a 3 bedroom with a large living area, kitchen and screened in porch.  It easily fit the 5 over us that stayed there.  The other house we rented was a 4 bedroom and housed the other 7 guys with plenty of room to spare.  Murrells Inlet has some great courses but night life is lacking.  We tried the Marsh Walk, and some other areas but the area just shuts down after 10 pm so if you're with a group of guys that like to party I'd suggest you stay north or buy a lot of booze to drink where you're staying.  If you want some good food, we ate at Piccolos Italian restaurant, great food and they have an outside dining area which was perfect for our somewhat rowdy group.  Another good hangout is Frank's, a nice upscale menu with large outside bars make it a fun place to eat and relax after dinner.  Everyone that goes to Murrells Inlet visits the Marsh Walk but beyond it being made famous from the reality series, "Party Down South" it's disappointing and the restaurants we visited there were subpar so I won't bother mentioning them.  

Next year we plan to play courses in northern MB which we haven't done in the 3 years I've been going on this trip so it should be different.  I stayed north over 20 years ago and remember it being a pretty wild area with lots of places than men can get into trouble.  If anyone has courses suggestions for that area, please let me know.  

 

Farmstead is up that way. If I remember they have a nifty par 6 on 18. Just a thought, Have you ever thought of going to Hilton Head? I've never played a bad course there and you don't have to overspend to play nice courses. If you know where to look, there are some spots there that are "entertaining".

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