Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
augafan48

Pro handicap

Note: This thread is 4564 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

23 posts / 14290 viewsLast Reply

Recommended Posts

what koind of handicap should you get to before even considering going pro. I know that Tiger, on all the tough courses he plays, has about a +7, but anyone have any ideas?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

what koind of handicap should you get to before even considering going pro. I know that Tiger, on all the tough courses he plays, has about a +7, but anyone have any ideas?

I'd say +3 or better, but that's me. Thing is, most tour pros aren't that far apart in handicap, if you think about it, and consider most scores are over four days (+5 versus say, +5.5 would yield a margin of two strokes). If I get anywhere close to scratch I'll be trying my luck at local tours and stuff, though. Always the outside chance of being on my A game and pulling a victory out of nowhere.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

what koind of handicap should you get to before even considering going pro. I know that Tiger, on all the tough courses he plays, has about a +7, but anyone have any ideas?

You need something like a 2 before being able to attempt Monday qualifying or Q-School. You have to be much better than that to have a real chance of success.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

You have to remember that these guys on tour are playing courses with ratings of 75.2 or even 77 at times, and they still shoot under par on those very difficult courses, which would (if you averaged this) make them about +7 or so. So, I would say that you would have to be able to play the toughest and longest courses in your area averaging under par to think about going pro or becoming competitive on tour.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You have to remember that these guys on tour are playing courses with ratings of 75.2 or even 77 at times, and they still shoot under par on those very difficult courses, which would (if you averaged this) make them about +7 or so. So, I would say that you would have to be able to play the toughest and longest courses in your area averaging under par to think about going pro or becoming competitive on tour.

Being competitive on tour would be another 2 at least making my estimate a +5 or better. They are playing a different game...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I actually don't think handicap has anything to do with going pro. Here's when I think you need to think about going pro:

1) You can beat the best local players in money games. Check with your club pro and find out when they play the no handicap games.

2) When every person you play with says that you're the best player they've ever played with and ask you when you're turning pro.

3) You start winning amateur tournaments regularly. Shooting low scores and winning tournaments are completely different.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

3) You start winning amateur tournaments regularly. Shooting low scores and winning tournaments are completely different.

True, but you need low scores to win tournaments. I think JonnyGolf makes a good point about the am tournies. All the guys on tour played somewhere before the tour. Mark Calcavecchia is from my town and he was a great high school golfer, played college golf at UF, and he won a lot of local amatuer tournaments in Florida. I am sure he was in the plus handicap numbers when he decided he had what it took to play professionally.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I actually don't think handicap has anything to do with going pro. Here's when I think you need to think about going pro:

I think this one should be number one. The real key is regularly. Not necessarily winning every time out, but contending. Look at Colt Knost. He had about as good a year as an amateur could have and still didn't get his card. In fact, I don't think he even earned full status on the Nationwide Tour.

I just think too often people take for granted how good these guys really are. I also don't think a lot of people, not necessarily here, give the LPGA players the respect they should. Those ladies can flat out play.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As another data point, Darron Stiles maintains a handicap at my club. He was exempt on the PGA Tour for 2007 (one of those lower level exemptions where you don't get your choice of tournament entries). He ended up winning a little over $200K. And since he didn't place well in Q school in 2007 I assume that he'll be playing the Nationwide in 2008.

Just for grins I glance at his handicap occasionally. It typically bounces around in the 4-6 range. They are all "T" scores, BTW.

dave

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

my 2nd cousin is about 23 and plays at the western australia golf club. he currently plays off scratch and had a go at qualifying for the asian tour. unfortunately he missed out by 1 shot. basically he is going back to the drawing board and has to get a job and that is almost his chance at getting into a tour circuit.

on a completely different subject: i heard rory mcilroy plays of +6 at his home course.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I live in South Carolina, the state Tommy Gainey is from, and I have the ability to look up his handicap through my clubs online handicap program. I just searched for it, and found it. It's only a +2.4, but the course has a rating of just 68.9. So, he doesn't get much for shooting a really low score at that course. For example: he shot 63 on June 29, 2007, which only put +5.6 towards his handicap. It's a par 72 and it plays to 6,900+ yds. I was also suprised to see that he shot an 89 on September 10, 2007! I sure hope he won't blow up like that on tour. Other than that though, most of his scores are in the mid-high 60's with some low seventies sprinkled in.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think it should be based on handicap.

If you're dominating the local amateur scene then try satellite pro events. If you're successful then keep climbing the ladder.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I always thought that +3.5 was the lowest handicap you could have on the computer system. Am I just drunk or flat out wrong lol... I'm not drunk right now by the way.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I always thought that +3.5 was the lowest handicap you could have on the computer system. Am I just drunk or flat out wrong lol... I'm not drunk right now by the way.

There is a 'maximum handicap' for me of 36.4, but that is in the other direction. At a glance I did not see any limitations for plus handicaps in the USGA Handicap Manual - and you certainly can continue the calculations well past +3.4. Our computer system definitely will allow indexes in the plus 6 range.

dave

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There is a 'maximum handicap' for me of 36.4, but that is in the other direction. At a glance I did not see any limitations for plus handicaps in the USGA Handicap Manual - and you certainly can continue the calculations well past +3.4. Our computer system definitely will allow indexes in the plus 6 range.

HMmm.. Thanks for the info

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What you need to turn Pro.

1/ A god given talent.

2/ The good fortune to be born to money.

And thats it.

The boys that make it aren't from the hood. It costs a tonne of money to dedicate your life to golf. And even with god given talent thats what you have to do to make the tour.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Note: This thread is 4564 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Affiliates

    SuperSpeed
    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    FlightScope Mevo
    Use the code "iacas" for 10% off Mevo
  • Posts

    • 64 in our Red, White and Blue tournament. Won the gross division. Format is you play six holes from the blue tees, six from the whites and six from the reds, got to pick which ones you teed off from. Index right now is +2.5 and my handicap for today was +7, so gives you an idea of how short the course was....but still have to keep it in play and convert. Great thing is I don't have to post it! 👍  
    • A scratch golfer can shoot 85 if they’re not used to competition. Not often, but it can happen.
    • At my club, we have a lot more of the first type than the second type.  These guys only play at scratch with their buddies, and they just don't care about the handicap system.  Yet there a few net events every year they want to play in.  It took a fair bit of convincing (coercion maybe is a better word) to get these guys to post (almost) all of their scores.  I offered to simply withdraw their handicap, so they wouldn't have to worry about posting scores.  Of course, that would also mean they wouldn't have a HI if they got invited to their brother-in-laws Member-Guest at Oakmont (or wherever), so they wouldn't be allowed to play.   I have no doubt there are bunch of the vanity cappers @bkuehn1952 describes, and we probably have a small number of those as well.   I also heard through the grapevine that a local high-school golf course had told his players to post only their competition scores.  Its a shame that someone in that position either doesn't understand the handicap system, or chooses to try to have his kids manipulate the system.
    • I just bought the Monster mat. It's 5 x 5 and stupid expensive ($328). This is the same mat I've been hitting off for the last year at the range when the grass is closed. Under commercial use they have held up real well and do not leave all that green residue on your irons. I figured that this is one of those items in life where you could try and save a little and live with many regrets or buy it once for life and be satisfied. They make a model up from this that you can peg a tee into but that cost even more. I just use one of those rubber tees that sit flush with the mat and that will hold a normal wooden tee. Also if you can't locate locally shipping will run about $50. I paired the mat with a Range Servant ball tray. Its rubber, not plastic, sits flush with the lip of the mat and is very heavy. It just absolutely will not move unless you move it. It holds about 50 golf balls.
    • The lighter shaft is easier to hit. I have a bad back and found I prefer a 50 g shaft even though I'm more accurate with a 65 g shaft. I've tried an S and it's like swinging with a board even though I have the SS to play one... it isn't worth it. A shaft that makes it easier on my back is always worth it. It comes down to something called COR. It's been the same for years. Coefficient of Restitution. This is defined as the ratio of the final velocity to the initial velocity between two objects after their collision. Basically COR is a measurement of the energy loss or retention when two objects collide. That's why the claim of 5 yds further is bogus. Drivers are more forgiving across the faces today than they used to be because they've gotten better at making the driver faces and widening the "sweet spot." Still there is that main sweet spot where you get the max distance.  Which driver are you more comfortable swinging? It seems like you answered that. It's your new one. Enjoy your Sim Max. 
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Blog Entries

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. bitbybit
      bitbybit
      (26 years old)
    2. dash1988
      dash1988
      (32 years old)
    3. Flightchecker
      Flightchecker
      (60 years old)
    4. IowaGreg
      IowaGreg
      (60 years old)
    5. Mollie Grant
      Mollie Grant
      (30 years old)

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...