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16 hours ago, Phil McGleno said:

I will answer for you-You use a chipper and tell other people to use one.

For me it was the range finder. Walk it off or-Better-Just eye it up. That is what I used to think.

I love this answer.  I've said a few times I think it would be fun to watch a pro tournament where all distance info is not allowed.  No yardage book or anything.  Just force the players to eye it up after a few practice rounds.  

For me, the biggest sell out feeling was probably getting a push cart.  It was in my 20s, and I had a little pride in carrying my bag.  Look at me, I'm in such good shape I carry my bag and don't lose steam on the back 9.  Then my wife got me a nice Clickgear 3.5+ for my birthday one year.  I felt a bit like a sellout, but used it once and instantly converted.  Never looked back.

When I started working at Nike I got my first set of new, fitted irons cause I could get a big discount – obviously before they stopped making clubs.  The fitter looked at my yardages for my 2h and SW and convinced me to get 4i-GW, with 4i-PW the same lofts as my old 3i-PW set.  It was definitely a better setup, as I gained about 1/2 a club in length and the gap between my 4i and 2h really isn't huge, and the GW closed what used to be a huge gap between PW and SW.  But I still felt a bit like a sellout at first no longer having a 3i in the bag.

Matt

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Cleveland Tour Action 60˚
Cleveland CG15 54˚
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Tour Edge Exotics XCG 15˚ 3 Wood
Taylormade R7 Quad 9.5˚

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If you call adjusting equipment to match your aging body a sell out I am guilty.  I traded my 2i thru 6i for 2h thru 6h when I passed 60 5 years ago.  I hit my hybrids as far or farther than I hit the equivalent irons 15 years ago.  But I sleep well since all my clubs are USGA approved and I still have the ability to reach a 420 yard par 4 in 2 (with 2 very good swings). 

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I almost exclusively wear spike-less 'comfort' shoes now..

Didn't know a push cart was considered a sell-out by ANY generation!!  

10 hours ago, mvmac said:

- I think Brandel Chamblee makes some good points with his take on the golf swing and I bought his book.

That's like buying it for discussion. IMO, only sell out if you become his student.. I would prolly die of shock if you did.

Vishal S.

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17 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

IMO, only sell out if you become his student.. I would prolly die of shock if you did.

Ha, well that's not going to happen.

The "macro" swing info he shares in his book is in agreement with a lot of the stuff I've posted here, he is just very particular about what he likes to see and favors the old-school swings or styles. I agree there is merit in looking back at what great players have done and connecting the dots with modern day players.

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When I start using my 3 wood on normal driver holes because my driver is having fits...

"My ball is on top of a rock in the hazard, do I get some sort of relief?"

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--Got a 5 wood instead of a 3 wood 

--About 5 seasons ago played said 5 wood almost exclusively instead of driver for the season

--Play a lesser-known online-order golf ball (no, not Snell). 

--Sometimes wear a bright yellow bucket hat that contrasts sharply with my stylish Ashworth golf shirts 

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I am barely watching golf tournaments on tv anymore. Maybe have been watching too long, or hold it to a higher standard. The broadcasts across the board CBS/NBC/ABC/Fox, suck. Spend more time watching golf from a streaming source.

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I have a few:

Replacing my 3 iron with a 3 Hybrid
Buying a 12.5* driver and adjusting it to 14* to help me drive the ball higher, rather than fix my swing ( adjusted 3H and 3W to max loft also )
When I bought my TM RSI1 Irons ( semi game improvement )
I ditched my stand bag and bought a cart bag once I realised I would never walk a course
I'll replace my putter if I find a good deal and like the style, no questions asked.
Pretty much never watch golf except for majors or unless Tiger is playing....so pretty much just majors, for now.

 

Also....I bought the VR_S Covert solely because of this commercial....it got me so amped up for some reason.
 


 

 

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:nike:VRS Covert 3 Wood Stiff
:nike:VRS Covert 3 Hybrid Stiff
:nike:VR Pro Combo CB 4 - PW Stiff 2° Flat
:cleveland:588RTX CB 50.10 GW
:cleveland:588RTX CB 54.10 SW
:nike:VR V-Rev 60.8 LW
:nike:Method 002 Putter

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I sold out by starting to use Pro V1x balls about two years ago. I was using the Callaway Hex Chrome+ balls, but they got discontinued. And I found that I was playing better with the Pro V1x. I didn't want to be one of many golfers who instinctively use Titleist balls, but they worked well for me. And there's little outside of cheating that I won't do to improve my score...

-- Daniel

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:callaway: Rogue Pro 3-PW :edel: SMS Wedges - V-Grind (48, 54, 58):edel: Putter

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In the spirit of this thread, I came up with some things that might be considered "selling out"

  1. I've used a pull cart since I was 25.
  2. I bought my rangefinder when I was a 25.
  3. I now exclusively use a handheld GPS
  4. I switched back from spikeless because I don't like tying my shoes.
  5. I have on more than one occasion considered playing a block as my pattern
  6. I would ride all the time if I didn't have to pay extra
  7. I've taken entire lessons exclusively on short game and putting

Now I still don't feel like a sell out, but I can see how some people would consider these things as selling out, so there they are :-)

Bill

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On 6/27/2017 at 7:55 PM, Phil McGleno said:

For me it was the range finder. Walk it off or-Better-Just eye it up. That is what I used to think.

I bought a range finder and I rarely use it. I still feel quite comfortable using my eyes.

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More than a few times I've reverted changes I've been making on my swing in favor of 'controlled shots' that my old swing gave me. Not only does this not help, it just makes everything take so much longer.

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I have a 5h this season, which is basically a 9w and follows my 4h and 3h. It's right up there with wearing a granny chain thing on your glasses. Totally temporary though, as soon as I can move a little better, and faster, I'll go back to irons.

Dave :-)

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My top sell out moment was buying a brand new Scotty Cameron putter. I have always felt like a putter is a freaking putter. If yo'er a good putter you can probably putt with my $15 Yes putter. Well I was (and still am) a sucky putter and buying a super nice flat stick likely didn't help squat! lol

My recent behavior of being a sell out is using my 20-deg 3h for all shots 160-200 yards. Because my swing magically started sucking again. Yep. I'm as fickle a swinger as they come.

D: :tmade: R1 Stiff @ 10* 3W: :tmade: AeroBurner TP 15* 2H: :adams: Super 9031 18* 3-SW: :tmade: R9 Stiff P: :titleist: :scotty_cameron: Futura X7M 35"

Ball: Whatever. Something soft. Kirklands Signature are pretty schweeeet at the moment!

Bag: :sunmountain: C130 Cart Bag Push Cart: :sunmountain: Micro Cart Sport

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I'm going to go with the push cart as well (picked one up about 5-6 years ago).  I've always liked walking and carrying, it felt like a natural part of the game.  I actually used to look at people with push carts as whimps.  It is much easier on the knees though, so I guess I'm a whimp now haha. Walking also forced me to keep less in the bag.  Now that I use the push, I keep way too many "things" in my bag.  When I play 9, or a Par 3, I still do carry.

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Please, no judgement about the clubs in anyone's bag, or push/pull cart, or golf cart, or 7H or my 9wood (I'm thinking about it :) ).

Being a "Sell Out" is such a bad connotation. I'm adapting to a very challenging sporting endeavor - a punishment that I still choose to inflict upon myself.

I'm 'Buying In' to this great game.

 

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I use my dad's old Lynx Parallax irons from 91, and he has the tour bag to go with it, this bag below:

046be07f5b5b1d13716b1d47da1e2b80--golf-a

Its a heavy bag, and it NEVER stays upright and I hated hearing my clubs fall over-and-over. Rather than buy a new bag, I just use my dad's old push cart. I feel silly doing it as a healthy 30 year old. One of these days when I got extra cash, I might buy a bag I really like; I have seen some from Sun Mountain and Jones that I really like.

I can honestly say there's a difference in how worn out I am after between carrying that heavy thing and pushing it.

Other than that, I started with hyrbids representing my 2i/3i from advice from a friend, and have recently enjoyed it more replacing my 4i with a hybrid. I imagine the shift to hybrids must have been much different for people involved with the game for years, vs someone like me 3 years into the sport.

 

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