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Rory McIlroy Fires His Caddie

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16 hours ago, rehmwa said:

Well, clearly he sucks at the game:

6 top tens out of 11 tourneys (4 of them top 5s) two of them the from the 3 majors of this year

Poor kid - how can he even afford to eat and pay his mortgage....

2017-07-31 10_19_48-Rory McIlroy Stats, Tournament Results - PGA Golf - ESPN.jpg

This shows how high Rory's standards are.. this would be a great run for most of the pros! Interesting to see who ends up being Rory's caddie. There's a rumour that his best friend Harry Diamond would caddy for him at WGC Bridgestone, but surely that has to be just for one tournament..

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Let's be honest, from a course management perspective, how much could a caddy really help Rory? Maybe a stroke a tournament? I get that there's a lot of intangibles that a caddy could help with, but I have a hard time believing that a caddy could really directly save strokes with putting or course management help.

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7 hours ago, FinTurma said:

This shows how high Rory's standards are.. this would be a great run for most of the pros! Interesting to see who ends up being Rory's caddie. There's a rumour that his best friend Harry Diamond would caddy for him at WGC Bridgestone, but surely that has to be just for one tournament..

Diamond confirmed for the WGC Bridgestone and the PGA. Interesting, but you've got to feel that Rory's running out of excuses after this...

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27 minutes ago, DeadMan said:

Let's be honest, from a course management perspective, how much could a caddy really help Rory?

I am wondering if Spieth would even be relevant with out his caddie :-P.

27 minutes ago, DeadMan said:

I get that there's a lot of intangibles that a caddy could help with, but I have a hard time believing that a caddy could really directly save strokes with putting or course management help.

I think it depends on the golfer. If you have a guy who can read the greens better than Rory does, that could be significant. If you have a guy who you are comfortable with, and trust, that can be significant.

 

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1 minute ago, saevel25 said:

I am wondering if Spieth would even be relevant with out his caddie :-P.

Michael!  Can you get the crowd to move just in case.  And then you need to move.

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On July 31, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Vinsk said:

" And take this stupid putter with you!." 

:-$

On July 31, 2017 at 11:39 AM, skydog said:

IMO Rory will hang around leaderboards for the next few years because his ball striking is good enough. But I would make a hefty wager that he won't win anymore majors. I know most disagree, but that is my hunch.

 

I dont think that opinion is unreasonable. Winning majors isn't easy. Guys that have won four majors or more are usually canonized as golf royalty. But in the post tiger era, Rory is assumed to be some kind of disappointment because Tiger made winning appear so commonplace.  Rory has already done enough to have a HOF career IMO. 

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21 minutes ago, Groucho Valentine said:

:-$

I dont think that opinion is unreasonable. Winning majors isn't easy. Guys that have won four majors or more are usually canonized as golf royalty. But in the post tiger era, Rory is assumed to be some kind of disappointment because Tiger made winning appear so commonplace.  Rory has already done enough to have a HOF career IMO. 

Is his hall of fame status questionable at this point...? I thought it was a given? 

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9 minutes ago, jkelley9 said:

Is his hall of fame status questionable at this point...? I thought it was a given? 

I think to some, he isn't an all time great. Even though his results say different. I think alot of folks hoped and even expected that Rory would erase Tiger from any conversations of GOAT by winning 20 majors or something. Thats obviously not going to happen and i feel like some in the sports media sphere and fan world tag him as a disappointment.  20 something wins, 4 majors. He's done enough already. I feel like that mantle of expectation is starting to shift to Jordan Spieth and its completley not fair to him, either. 

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1 hour ago, saevel25 said:

I am wondering if Spieth would even be relevant with out his caddie :-P.

I think it depends on the golfer. If you have a guy who can read the greens better than Rory does, that could be significant. If you have a guy who you are comfortable with, and trust, that can be significant.

Ironically, a year ago, I read a couple of articles talking about how Spieth needed to replace Greller to get to the next level.

I really don't think the issue with Rory is that he needs a better caddy. Maybe it'd help a little bit. The real issue is that he hasn't been healthy enough to get his swing to where he can dominate. No one was talking about his struggles 9 months ago when he won the FedEx Cup and then dominated the conversation at the Ryder Cup.

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23 hours ago, Shindig said:

Michael!  Can you get the crowd to move just in case.  And then you need to move.

That was awesome but you do realize why Greller couldn't stand there right? That hole making bogey when double or worse was a real possibility saved the tournament

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I truly believe that what Rory needs is a caddie to give him tough love first and foremost.  But what seems to be so wrong with his game is how many of his shots to the green wind up short or long and he looks at his caddie in amazement.  If this is because of his ball striking or club selection is something that needs to be figured out but he needs a coach and caddie with him on the driving range to figure this out and then he is back to dominating like he did a few years back.  No doubt getting a caddie will be easy for him but most importantly is someone he trusts.

@DeadMan, 1 stroke can truly make a difference and if your caddie can help you with that, then jump and pick a guy like that.  For a pro of Rory or Jordan's skill, a caddie is more about course management and perhaps reading greens.

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I agree with Rory's reasoning for separating from JP. Why ruin a good personal relationships because of the working relationships, and every golfer should own their golf game. A very mature decision.

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7 hours ago, MuniGrit said:

That was awesome but you do realize why Greller couldn't stand there right? That hole making bogey when double or worse was a real possibility saved the tournament

Yes to both.

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An update

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“It’s a big change,” said McIlroy, who didn’t play the 2015 Bridgestone because of an ankle injury and the 2016 contest because he played in the French Open. “J.P. has been a huge part of my life for the last decade. A lot of great times on and off the golf course. I still consider J.P. one of my best friends, but sometimes to preserve a personal relationship, you might have to sacrifice a professional one and that was sort of the decision that I came to in the end. ...

"There’s nothing to say that J.P. mightn’t work for me again at some point, but right now I just felt like I needed a little bit of a change,” McIlroy said. “I hate the term fired or sacked or axed, because that’s definitely not what it was. I just changed my path a little bit, but maybe in the future that path might come back to where it was. Right now I just needed to mix things up a little bit, and J.P. understood that and we’re still all good.”

I bet it can be stressful for a friendship if you need to have a working relationship as well. Especially at the professional level at any sport.

 

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2 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

Update² - Rory T4 at-3 with the new caddie.

Coincidence?

Probably

It's not windy out. Firestone South is a course you can take advantage of from off the tee and high approach shots. This course would favor Rory, like it favored Tiger.

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I just wondered peoples opinion on mcilroy sacking his caddie? I personally feel he has made a bad decision, and feel his golf has slipped purely on his part. After all them wins and golden few years I don't see why change a winning formula

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1 hour ago, thegolfnudger said:

I just wondered peoples opinion on mcilroy sacking his caddie? I personally feel he has made a bad decision, and feel his golf has slipped purely on his part. After all them wins and golden few years I don't see why change a winning formula

Everyone needs a change sometimes.  Rory has already changed equipment, ball, etc.  He admitted his golf has slipped because of himself and nobody else.  He also said, that he was reflecting the blame onto his caddie which he did not want to be doing.  They are very very good friends off the course too, so in an attempt to save the friendship they parted ways.  Rory even said we might even see him back on the bag in the future.  Make no mistake, J.P. will not be out of a job very long...

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