NHL 2017-2018

[Slugox]

1 minute ago, iacas said:

The problem with that is that on the rare occasion a star player takes out a fringe player, the fringe player may be induced to sit for a loooooooong time.

I don't believe in punishing the result, and sometimes weird stuff happens. That would be punishing the result, not the actual hit. It's the same as not giving a fine/suspension if the player is uninjured, but in reverse.

Certainly fair points, especially about a lesser player feigning severity to cost another player/team time. I did qualify with "at least", if only to be sure that the most egregious violators receive just punishment. There are any number of better and more effective systems of discipline that could be put in place and improve the current NHL concept of "oops".

But hits to the head should be punished severely. I see no reason for leniency or pretending to buy some guys excuse. Sorry, no, you're out.

[billchao]

Gudas doing what he does best.

[mcanadiens]

9 minutes ago, billchao said:

Gudas doing what he does best.

The whole leaving the skates thing has become a real no-no anymore.

I was surprised to see Zajac was the one that answered for NJ. 

[Themightyoz]

I was at the game this week.  I guess breaking your stick on the goalies face  is legal now.  Good job protecting goalies NHL...

[iacas]

2 minutes ago, Themightyoz said:

I was at the game this week.  I guess breaking your stick on the goalies face  is legal now.  Good job protecting goalies NHL...

And then they disallowed what would have been Crosby's 400th because a Pens stick, tied up with a Devils stick, grazed the goalie (who went down like he was shot, despite having pucks flung at him at 90 MPH and being fine), and remained on the ice for several seconds when he could have gotten up to re-establish himself.

 

Lovejoy's (a Devil) stick is the one that rakes the goalie.

Bad call. They talked quite a bit about the Neal situation during the review and aftermath of this goal. (I say goal because it should have stood.)

[billchao]

3 minutes ago, iacas said:

And then they disallowed what would have been Crosby's 400th because a Pens stick, tied up with a Devils stick, grazed the goalie (who went down like he was shot, despite having pucks flung at him at 90 MPH and being fine), and remained on the ice for several seconds when he could have gotten up to re-establish himself.

 

Lovejoy's (a Devil) stick is the one that rakes the goalie.

Bad call. They talked quite a bit about the Neal situation during the review and aftermath of this goal. (I say goal because it should have stood.)

Lol yea I saw that and said to my brother, "That goal will stand because it's Lovejoy's stick". Im current 0-3 on replays this year. 

He got hit in the neck from what I saw of the replay.

But hey they immediately waived off a Devils goal because Palmieri IIRC wiped out your goalie and that's totally a legal play based on what I saw in that Boston game.

 

[iacas]

6 minutes ago, billchao said:

Lol yea I saw that and said to my brother, "That goal will stand because it's Lovejoy's stick". Im current 0-3 on replays this year. 

Yeah, it should have been a goal.

6 minutes ago, billchao said:

He got hit in the neck from what I saw of the replay.

I think you're right about Lovejoy's stick. Just below the mask.

6 minutes ago, billchao said:

But hey they immediately waived off a Devils goal because Palmieri IIRC wiped out your goalie and that's totally a legal play based on what I saw in that Boston game.

That puck didn't go in until well after the net was off the moorings.

NHL refereeing, man…

[billchao]

7 minutes ago, iacas said:

Yeah, it should have been a goal.

Agreed.

7 minutes ago, iacas said:

That puck didn't go in until well after the net was off the moorings.

Did the net get dislodged? I might be misremembering, but I thought the goalie was knocked sideways out of the crease. Doesn't matter anyway, it's interference/incidental contact, no goal. Just like that Boston/St. Louis game should have been.

7 minutes ago, iacas said:

NHL refereeing, man…

Yea it's bad.

[Warren Zevon]

Damnit, McDavid has a four goal performance last night and I’m on holidays in a country with zero NHL coverage.   Listening to games on the interwebz just isn’t the same.  

[Warren Zevon]

Also, please suspend Alexandre Burrows for at least half a dozen games.  What an idiot.  

[iacas]

2 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

Also, please suspend Alexandre Burrows for at least half a dozen games.  What an idiot.  

Looks like just a phone hearing, so, nope.

Asking a lot for the NHL to actually begin to take appropriate actions… you know better than that @Warren Zevon.

[Warren Zevon]

Well, I figure Hall isn’t an Oiler anymore so DOPS might actually do something.  

 

I kept my mouth shut about the goalie interference stuff.  You have no idea how many goals Edmonton has had called back this year.  

 

Edit:  The league wanted to have an in person hearing with Burrows, which he waived for a phone call instead.   It looks like he’ll be getting a little playcation.  

Edited February 7, 2018 by Warren Zevon

[iacas]

54 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

Edit:  The league wanted to have an in person hearing with Burrows, which he waived for a phone call instead.   It looks like he’ll be getting a little playcation.  

Oh. I just saw the “phone call” headline.

[billchao]

Burrows is suspended for 10 games.

Usually when the league wants to meet in person, it's serious.

In other news, Marchand is back, and didn't even miss the All Star Game. Johansson still out indefinitely with a concussion.

[Club Rat]

On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 5:22 PM, iacas said:

And then they disallowed what would have been Crosby's 400th

He got it today in St Louis, Congrats to Sidney...  

[Warren Zevon]

Damn it, I was hoping Chiarelli could dump off Lucic and his albatross contract at the deadline.  If he keeps his current level of play up he's probably going to be bought out.

[billchao]

54 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

Damn it, I was hoping Chiarelli could dump off Lucic and his albatross contract at the deadline.  If he keeps his current level of play up he's probably going to be bought out.

This probably doesn't need to be asked, but if you don't want him on your team due to his declining play and ridiculous contract, who did you expect would pick him up and what would you be willing to part with to make that happen?

[Warren Zevon]

3 hours ago, billchao said:

This probably doesn't need to be asked, but if you don't want him on your team due to his declining play and ridiculous contract, who did you expect would pick him up and what would you be willing to part with to make that happen?

   A team close to the cap floor?   It was just wishful thinking.  And seeing what a lot of players didn’t get in return for their clubs was less than inspiring.  

   I kind of expected Lucic to be slow on the ice.   I didn’t figure his hockey sense and hands would go so quickly, as well.