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15 hours ago, Shorty said:

For every rude player "event" there are 7435 (approx.) rude fan events. Players can be huffy and distant and can come across as very entitled, but there is a difference between someone who is being paid to be part of the action and some moron who copies another 500 morons yelling out "mashed potatoes" or whatever. These days, a lot of young people think that their hilarious and original comments are an important part of the proceedings. And if I was a player and a 23 year old said "Give me your ball" or "Glove, glove!" I'd probably appear rude to him if I ignored him.

7433. Two guys just got kicked out for yelling "Dilly Dilly".:-P

 

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On 3/19/2018 at 8:00 AM, skydog said:

I may be in the minority here but I'm getting a bit fed up with the likes of Rory and JT who seem to view the fans -who pay for their livelihood- as nothing more than a means to an end. I'm not condoning idiotic behavior at tour events, but it seems like some of these guys don't understand that the gigantic purses they take home these days are supported by larger crowds and with that inevitably comes a more diverse and raucous crowd. ... 

Au contraire... I think Rory and JT expect fans to have good manners. If you haven' heard, manners is something us Baby Boomers believe in.

I've been a course marshal at a couple of pro events, and there's always a few show-offs in the crowd. And a show-off that's downed a six pack in the past hour is the usual culprit.

The head hole marshal has a radio, and can summons people with handcuffs it things get too bad.

Equally irritating are the club members who are holding just inside the ropes court for a cluster of guests. These members have a bad habit of lecturing friends on how to play a particular shot as the pro is trying to line up his.

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3 minutes ago, WUTiger said:

Au contraire... I think Rory and JT expect fans to have good manners. If you haven' heard, manners is something us Baby Boomers believe in.

I've been a course marshal at a couple of pro events, and there's always a few show-offs in the crowd. And a show-off that's downed a six pack in the past hour is the usual culprit.

The head hole marshal has a radio, and can summons people with handcuffs it things get too bad.

Equally irritating are the club members who are holding just inside the ropes court for a cluster of guests. These members have a bad habit of lecturing friends on how to play a particular shot as the pro is trying to line up his.

I'm all for good manners. I don't condone the actions of these idiots we hear at pro events, but I think they should be dealt with by marshals and not the players themselves.

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10 minutes ago, skydog said:

I'm all for good manners. I don't condone the actions of these idiots we hear at pro events, but I think they should be dealt with by marshals and not the players themselves.

That's the preferred way.

A related matter: should caddies address fans who are obnoxious? I not sure about that situation.

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3 minutes ago, WUTiger said:

That's the preferred way.

A related matter: should caddies address fans who are obnoxious? I not sure about that situation.

If they do it in a relatively courteous manner, then I'm OK with it. Try to defuse a situation before it gets worse and a marshal has to step in. I would rather the caddie say something than the player I suppose.

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Oh, shit! It's the baby boomers that believe in good manners? I knew it had to come from somewhere. Thank God for one generation of Americans who taught the world.

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As already suggested, just start escorting them out.  The rest of what is thankfully still a minority will get the message and likely change behavior.  The amount of fan chatter has definitely escalated as the years roll along (the WMO arguably the worst).  Just compare old footage of events from decades ago to more recent.  I particularly do not like the constant bellowing out by some after seemingly every drive/shot; "get in the hole" off all t-boxes - really?  I guess these folks love hearing themselves on replay.

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I was at The Open at St Andrews a few years ago and some dill-pickle from the mid-west called out "in the hole" - the response from the surrounding fans was like "how dare you, this is the Open, please be quiet". Never heard a peep from him after that. So maybe some peer pressure would help at US events. Certainly at the Masters there is much less than you hear at regular PGA events.

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15 hours ago, fishgolf said:

As already suggested, just start escorting them out.  The rest of what is thankfully still a minority will get the message and likely change behavior.  The amount of fan chatter has definitely escalated as the years roll along (the WMO arguably the worst).  Just compare old footage of events from decades ago to more recent.  I particularly do not like the constant bellowing out by some after seemingly every drive/shot; "get in the hole" off all  t-boxes - really?  I guess these folks love hearing themselves on replay.

Since we're talking about tradition, how about we call a tee a tee. It is not a "tee box" and it is certainly not a "t-box". :-)

Other than that.... I totally agree. They think it is about them.

 

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Ejecting "fans" for saying inane and stupid things during tee shots?

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:-P

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It's a tee box.  It's also a tee.

See Rule 20-3, it's used in the text.

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I think what we are seeing here is a discussion of the general "coarsening" of society that many of us have witnessed over the past several decades. Maybe I'm extremely old school, but I was taught that you root for your favorite players, but not against anyone.

Well, maybe you did root against someone, but never to the degree where you would vocalize it on the course.

Of course, in the '62 Open at Oakmont where Nicklaus beat Palmer in a playoff, there were Palmer fans in the gallery who yelled "Miss it, fat guts!" at Nicklaus. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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15 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

I think what we are seeing here is a discussion of the general "coarsening" of society that many of us have witnessed over the past several decades. Maybe I'm extremely old school, but I was taught that you root for your favorite players, but not against anyone.

Well, maybe you did root against someone, but never to the degree where you would vocalize it on the course.

Of course, in the '62 Open at Oakmont where Nicklaus beat Palmer in a playoff, there were Palmer fans in the gallery who yelled "Miss it, fat guts!" at Nicklaus. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Yeah. Of course it’s also great to remember the time when ‘fat guts’ was brushed off or even just chuckled at. Now it’s ‘body shaming’, post it on fb/twitter, demand an apology and cry outrage. 

Pansies. All of ‘em.

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