Jump to content
IGNORED

Is It Legal For DeChambeau To Use Compass/Protractor?


Vinsk
Note: This thread is 2093 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes/sports/v-5c839b50-00d3-37e8-a68f-7c03c48d7104_c-d2a9f896-1d8e-3817-b0e5-c39d3aa9dc6c_a-d2a9f896-1d8e-3817-b0e5-c39d3aa9dc6c?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom

USGA is looking into BD’s use of a compass   during his rounds.

I guess some people enjoy his antics. I really just thInk he’s a clown. This doesn’t help. 

Edited by Vinsk
  • Like 1

:ping: G25 Driver Stiff :ping: G20 3W, 5W :ping: S55 4-W (aerotech steel fiber 110g shafts) :ping: Tour Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* :nike: Method Putter Floating clubs: :edel: 54* trapper wedge

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

The USGA isn't interested.

The "Tour" is.

Can't have a "clown" messsing with their "circus."

  • Like 3
"Age improves with wine."
 
Wishon 919THI 11*
Wishon 925HL 4w
Wishon 335HL 3h & 4h
Wishon 755pc 5i, 6i, 7i, 8i & 9i
Tad Moore 485 PW
Callaway X 54*
Ping G2 Anser C
Callaway SuperSoft
Titleist StaDry
Kangaroo Hillcrest AB
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Pretty sure this has been done before. And the decision was it was legal. I believe this was decided/changed in 2014 from the original thought that they violated 14-3. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

2 minutes ago, Asheville said:

The USGA isn't interested.

The "Tour" is.

Can't have a "clown" messsing with their "circus."

Lol. And yes, I meant to put Tour not USGA. I dunno....this guy just annoys me. ‘True pin placements?’ Come on....

:ping: G25 Driver Stiff :ping: G20 3W, 5W :ping: S55 4-W (aerotech steel fiber 110g shafts) :ping: Tour Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* :nike: Method Putter Floating clubs: :edel: 54* trapper wedge

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I'm with you @Vinsk.  Something about the guy just annoys the crap out of me ... I'm sure it's in part the announcers fault, but I'm tired of hearing about what a whiz-kid he is, and how he plays "a different game of golf", blah, blah, blah.  He comes across arrogant as hell anytime I hear him speak, and frankly the cap bothers me. FWIW, I completely recognize how petty and shallow my opinions here are.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites


3 minutes ago, Eric C said:

FWIW, I completely recognize how petty and shallow my opinions here are.

Yeah, I had to conclude that when I was perturbed by him for no apparent reason, something was wrong with me. Then I enjoyed his golf play. Good post. -Marv

DRIVER: Cleveland 588 Altitude ( Matrix Radix Sv Graphite, A) IRONS: Mizuno JPX-800 HD Irons & 3,4,5 JPX Fli-Hi (Grafalloy Prolaunch Blue Graphite, R); WEDGES: (Carried as needed) Artisan Golf 46, 50, 53, 56 low bounce, 56 high bounce; PUTTER: Mizuno TP Mills 9

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

56 minutes ago, HJJ003 said:

Pretty sure this has been done before. And the decision was it was legal. I believe this was decided/changed in 2014 from the original thought that they violated 14-3. 

There was a decision, 14-3/4 that sounds like it was intended for the directional compass:

Quote

Q. A player uses a compass during a stipulated round to help determine the direction of the wind or the direction of the grain in the greens. Is the player in breach of Rule 14-3?

A. No. A compass only provides directional information and does not gauge or measure variable conditions or assist the player in his play.

Using the geometrical compass sounds like he's using a device to measure distance which, on the surface, sounds like a no-no.

  • Thumbs Up 1

"No man goes round boasting of his vices,” he said, “except golfers." 

-- Det. Elk in The Twister by Edgar Wallace

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

A geometrical compass and a magnetic one are two different things. Using either one in a round of golf is a rabbit hole of meta nerdery one is sure to never to escape from. 

I guess my reaction to someone using a geometrical or magnetic compass during a round of play is.... ummm...ok...:-\ 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


1 hour ago, Groucho Valentine said:

A geometrical compass and a magnetic one are two different things. Using either one in a round of golf is a rabbit hole of meta nerdery one is sure to never to escape from. 

To me the meta nerdery was the redeeming factor in this whole thing.

-- Michael | My swing! 

"You think you're Jim Furyk. That's why your phone is never charged." - message from my mother

Driver:  Titleist 915D2.  4-wood:  Titleist 917F2.  Titleist TS2 19 degree hybrid.  Another hybrid in here too.  Irons 5-U, Ping G400.  Wedges negotiable (currently 54 degree Cleveland, 58 degree Titleist) Edel putter. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I have no issue at all what a player does (within the rules) to gather info to progress his game. (as long as pace of play is maintained, and how on earth do we even measure that with today's PGA)

It's like a bunch of little old church ladies in here sometimes.  (respect to Eric C for owning it)

Let's see what the rules committee 'random decision generator' figures out on this one.

  • Like 1

Bill - 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
4 hours ago, Vinsk said:

https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes/sports/v-5c839b50-00d3-37e8-a68f-7c03c48d7104_c-d2a9f896-1d8e-3817-b0e5-c39d3aa9dc6c_a-d2a9f896-1d8e-3817-b0e5-c39d3aa9dc6c?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom

USGA is looking into BD’s use of a compass   during his rounds.

I guess some people enjoy his antics. I really just thInk he’s a clown. This doesn’t help. 

What else is in Bryson's bag? :-P

BC bag.jpg

  • Like 2

Scott

Titleist, Edel, Scotty Cameron Putter, Snell - AimPoint - Evolvr - MirrorVision

My Swing Thread

boogielicious - Adjective describing the perfect surf wave

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I just find it ridiculous. He’s not ‘discovering’ anything the other guys with much better records aren’t. ‘Exact pin placement’ to what? The inch? He’s just an ass imo. It’s a waste of time and effort centered around some OCD regarding this game which is really more artistic than his obnoxious attempts to calculate it. He nor any other golfer is accurate enough for his calculations to matter. Not to the degree that a compass is necessary. 

  • Thumbs Up 1
  • Upvote 1

:ping: G25 Driver Stiff :ping: G20 3W, 5W :ping: S55 4-W (aerotech steel fiber 110g shafts) :ping: Tour Wedges 50*, 54*, 58* :nike: Method Putter Floating clubs: :edel: 54* trapper wedge

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

5 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

What else is in Bryson's bag? :-P

BC bag.jpg

To think they said nothing about the abacus and slide rule...

abacus-640x319.JPG

indx01a.jpg

7 minutes ago, Rulesman said:

I can't see how that type of compass can indicate direction.

It certainly can be used to measure or gauge distance.

But it makes a pretty curved line to simulate break...

"My ball is on top of a rock in the hazard, do I get some sort of relief?"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

When DeChambeau invites you over to dinner...

docbrown.png.0e8c2fbf6b19bc4580e1ed75e8de6d8c.png

 

I couldn't resist.

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 1

"No man goes round boasting of his vices,” he said, “except golfers." 

-- Det. Elk in The Twister by Edgar Wallace

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
7 minutes ago, Rulesman said:

I can't see how that type of compass can indicate direction.

It certainly can be used to measure or gauge distance.

I can't see that it might be doing anything illegal.  You can draw lines in your yardage book, this is similar.  You can use a compass to establish a right angle (90*) to a line, to establish 60*, to do a few more things.  If its a two-pin thing, I think that's a divider, you can measure multiples of a known distance.  If he thinks that somehow he can mark the actual pin location more accurately on his green-reading book, and thus improve his read, perhaps he's right, but its not a special device to me.  

And if I understand the physics correctly, I think a putt would break more in accordance with  some kind of asymptotic curve, and a simple compass can't simulate that kind of curve.

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
3 hours ago, rehmwa said:

I have no issue at all what a player does (within the rules) to gather info to progress his game. (as long as pace of play is maintained, and how on earth do we even measure that with today's PGA)

It's like a bunch of little old church ladies in here sometimes.  (respect to Eric C for owning it)

This may or may not be within the Rules. That’s why this is in this sub-forum. No need for the added OT commentary.

I don’t know if this is illegal. You can’t for example use a driveway marker stick on the course (but you can carry them). So we’ll see.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 2093 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • Committing to one brand of ball this year - Snell MTB Prime X, the 5 doz. pack. Like how they perform for me. At $18/doz., can live with cover scuffing. Iron regripping with GolfPrice MCC+4 Teams std. in red/navy. May be retiring Odyssey Dual Force after 30 yrs. Seems like I can't get it to the hole anymore. Kind of light and has lots of toe hang. My reg. group's hounding finally wore me down.    From Callaway preowned - trying out the Odyssey Tri-Hot 5K in double wide (less toe hang) and triple wide (face balanced). Both also noticeably heavier...we shall see.  
    • WOW, it looks like he has been hitting stones with that putter to put all of those nicks into it.  I can't see how a ball would cause many those dings.
    • I'm fighting a knee as well as a foot so I "Feel your pain".  Luckily for me the PT is helping at this time and I am hoping knee surgery is not imminent.  Best of luck to you.
    • I would guess putting grooves in it might make it non-conforming. I am not sure how stringent the USGA is on restoring golf clubs.
    • If PT doesn't work, then all other options (shots) are just temporary bandages of the pain. You may do more damage. Pain is the bodies way of telling you to STOP. Once you get rid of that, you are just now using an already damaged body part and put more stress and strain on it. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...