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12 hours ago, iacas said:

Yeah, like, oh, I don't know… Firestone? He's only won there eight times. Narrow fairways. Thick rough. Gotta hit a lot of drivers.

Thats not where they are playing the PGA, but alright...

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25 minutes ago, Foretheloveofgolf said:

It is pretty embarrassing that they have ZJ listed with the same odds as some of the club pro's. No disrespect to them- but it isn't their full time job. Love ZJ as a pick

Zach Johnson the tour player is listed at 80:1 or something. Zach J. Johnson is a club pro.

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23 minutes ago, Groucho Valentine said:

Thats not where they are playing the PGA, but alright...

Uh, he's comparing Firestone to Bellerive. You made somewhat of a blanket statement implying that Tiger wouldn't do well at this type of track, @iacas merely gave an example of a similar place that Tigs has pwned during his career.

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58 minutes ago, billchao said:

Zach Johnson the tour player is listed at 80:1 or something. Zach J. Johnson is a club pro.

I was really bummed when i found that out. I was seriously about to drop $200 on tour Zach Johnson.

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On 7/23/2018 at 8:29 PM, brocks said:

From http://golfodds.com/upcoming-major-odds.html.

If you can find a bookie who isn't paying too close attention, try to get Zach Johnson at 2000-1 (there's a Zach J. Johnson at those odds)

PGA Championship
Bellerive Country Club - St. Louis, Missouri
August 9 - 12, 2018

ODDS to Win:
Rory McIlroy 12/1
Jordan Spieth 12/1
Dustin Johnson 12/1
Tiger Woods 16/1
Rickie Fowler 16/1
Justin Thomas 16/1
Justin Rose 18/1
Brooks Koepka 20/1
Jon Rahm 20/1
Tommy Fleetwood 25/1
Francesco Molinari 25/1
Jason Day 25/1
Hideki Matsuyama 30/1
Patrick Reed 30/1
Henrik Stenson 40/1
Paul Casey 40/1
Alex Noren 40/1
Phil Mickelson 50/1
Sergio Garcia 50/1
Bubba Watson 50/1
Tony Finau 50/1
Xander Schauffele 50/1
Matt Kuchar 50/1
Marc Leishman 60/1
Branden Grace 60/1
Louis Oosthuizen 60/1
Patrick Cantlay 60/1
Bryson DeChambeau 60/1
Webb Simpson 60/1
Adam Scott 80/1
Zach Johnson 80/1
Kevin Kisner 80/1
Ian Poulter 100/1
Thomas Pieters 100/1
Tyrrell Hatton 100/1
Rafael Cabrera Bello 100/1
Daniel Berger 100/1
Kevin Chappell 100/1
Brian Harman 100/1
Brandt Snedeker 100/1
Charley Hoffman 100/1
Jason Dufner 125/1
Jimmy Walker 125/1
Emiliano Grillo 125/1
Matthew Fitzpatrick 125/1
Charl Schwartzel 125/1
Martin Kaymer 150/1
Ryan Moore 150/1
Kevin Na 150/1
Russell Knox 150/1
Peter Uihlein 150/1
Russell Henley 150/1
Kyle Stanley 150/1
Brendan Steele 150/1
Luke List 150/1
Haotong Li 150/1
Byeong Hun An 150/1
Gary Woodland 150/1
Kiradech Aphibarnrat 150/1
Lee Westwood 150/1
Keegan Bradley 150/1
Pat Perez 150/1
J.B. Holmes 150/1
Aaron Wise 150/1
Joaquin Niemann 150/1
Bill Haas 150/1
Billy Horschel 150/1
Shane Lowry 200/1
Beau Hossler 200/1
Chris Wood 200/1
Andy Sullivan 200/1
Danny Willett 200/1
Charles Howell III 200/1
Michael Kim 200/1
Adam Hadwin 200/1
Cameron Smith 200/1
Si Woo Kim 200/1
Chez Reavie 250/1
Scott Piercy 250/1
Austin Cook 250/1
Chesson Hadley 250/1
Shubhankar Sharma 250/1
Jim Furyk 250/1
Padraig Harrington 250/1
Ross Fisher 250/1
James Hahn 300/1
Satoshi Kodaira 300/1
Ollie Schniederjans 300/1
Bernd Wiesberger 300/1
Jordan Smith 300/1
Brice Garnett 300/1
Andrew Landry 300/1
Patton Kizzire 300/1
J.J. Spaun 300/1
Ryan Armour 500/1
Ted Potter, Jr 500/1
Chris Stroud 500/1
Scott Brown 500/1
Vijay Singh 500/1
Davis Love III 500/1
John Daly 1000/1
Rich Beem 1000/1
Y.E. Yang 1000/1
Paul Broadhurst 1000/1
Omar Uresti 1000/1
Rich Berberian, Jr 1000/1
Matt Dobyns 1000/1
Marty Jertsen 1000/1
Shaun Micheel 2000/1
Craig Bowden 2000/1
Michael Block 2000/1
Bob Sowards 2000/1
David Muttitt 2000/1
Jaysen Hansen 2000/1
Brian Smock 2000/1
Sean McCarty 2000/1
Matt Borchert 2000/1
Zach J. Johnson 2000/1
Jason Schmuhl 2000/1
Danny Balin 2000/1
Ben Kern 2000/1
Ryan Vermeer 2000/1
Shaun Warren 2000/1
Craig Hocknull 2000/1
Johan Kok 2000/1

There is actually a club pro who qualified named Zach Johnson. That’s probably who “Zach J Johnson” is. May want to double check before throwing cash down

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9 hours ago, Foretheloveofgolf said:

There is actually a club pro who qualified named Zach Johnson. That’s probably who “Zach J Johnson” is. May want to double check before throwing cash down

I love seeing things like this when a company has an IPO and a ticker that might be the choice they'd have made goes up when people buy that one without checking.  I'm not quite clever enough to make money off of this, though.

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11 hours ago, Groucho Valentine said:

Thats not where they are playing the PGA, but alright...

Uhhhh…

11 hours ago, colin007 said:

Uh, he's comparing Firestone to Bellerive. You made somewhat of a blanket statement implying that Tiger wouldn't do well at this type of track, @iacas merely gave an example of a similar place that Tigs has pwned during his career.

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Tee Times & Pairings released for first 2 rounds at Bellerive CC

https://www.pga.com/sites/default/files/2018-PGA-Championship-Round-1%262-starting-times.pdf

Marquee groups -
Rickie, Matsuyama, IJP
Thomas, McIlroy, Tiger
Phil, Day, Keegan (?)
DJ, Scott, Bubba
Reed, Koepka, Molinari
Spieth, Rahm, Rose

and many more
 

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Wonder who else opted for shawts.

 

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Looks like they put a little distance between players and spectators here at the practice range (as they did at USO) as well.

 

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Adam Scott, DJ, long pants. Spieth, McIlroy, shorts.

 

Chris Kirk. shorts

 

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When did they start being allowed to wear shorts?  I'm not complaining because even I'm wearing shorts now.  Just wondering, because I remember when even the caddies had to wear long pants.

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4 minutes ago, Shindig said:

When did they start being allowed to wear shorts?

It's a PGA thing I think they started this year for this event only which allows players to wear shorts during practice rounds only.

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7 minutes ago, Club Rat said:

It's a PGA thing I think they started this year for this event only which allows players to wear shorts during practice rounds only.

No wonder I hadn't heard of it.  Thanks!

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It's a hot one in STL today with thunderstorms in the forecast for tomorrow and then great weather the rest of the week.

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A friend sent me a few pics while he attended today. The news was saying many would attend to buy merchandise today.

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https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2018/08/06/why-pga-championship-players-wearing-golf-shorts-practice-rounds-103450/

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If you're tuning into early coverage of the 2018 PGA Championship at Bellerive Country Club in St. Louis, you've probably seen players in the year's final major wearing golf shorts in the hot Missouri sun.

This is different from every other PGA Tour event, where players aren't wearing shorts, even when the temperatures swell into the 90s and higher. That's because this event is run by the PGA of America, and in 2017, the organization putting on the PGA Championship decided golfers would be allowed to wear shorts during practice rounds starting in 2017 at Quail Hollow Club.

That means golfers are able to show a little leg in preparing to win the Wanamaker trophy. On Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, players can wear shorts. When the tournament starts on Thursday and through its conclusion on Sunday (or, God forbid, Monday), players have to wear pants.

This modern-thinking rule should be appealing to players who have been hoping for the PGA Tour to join the European Tour in allowing their players to wear shorts in practice rounds. The European Tour approved that change in 2016, and players took advantage by showing their gams during practice days.

So, you'll get a great view of players' calves for the Monday through Wednesday practice rounds, and then it's game time and the gams go into hiding...in the hot, hot heat.

 

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Published: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 | 3:48 p.m.
 
   Golfers: start working on those leg tans.

PGA President Paul Levy announced on Tuesday that shorts would be permitted for practice rounds in all PGA of America events going forward, most notably the KitchenAid Senior PGA Championship, PGA Professional Championship and PGA Championship.

The PGA Championship will be the first of the four major championships to allow contestants to wear shorts during practice rounds.

Great move.

The European Tour was at the forefront of this trend when it announced in January 2016 that it would permit shorts for practice rounds.

"Maybe. Why not?" Rory McIlroy said last year after the European Tour adopted the rule, when asked if shorts should also be allowed in competition. "It really depends if guys are comfortable or not. I don't think it takes anything away from the tradition of the game or etiquette or how guys look on the course.

"We're not going to go out in shorts at the British Open if it's 10 degrees (50 degrees F) and raining. But at the same time, if we're playing in a hot country and it's more comfortable for guys to wear shorts, then there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to."

When you consider the traditional August date for the PGA Championship -- right in the dead of summer -- this is a rational decision. Temperatures routinely flirt with the triple digits at any given PGA Championship venue.

It took years before caddies were allowed to wear shorts on the PGA Tour, which always seemed silly.

In a profession that chases the sun, really, what's the harm in a pair of tasteful shorts?

Once considered buttoned up and stuffy, golf has hit the mainstream in recent years and fashion is something that isn't taken lightly -- just ask players like Rickie Fowler, Darren Clarke, Jesper Parnevik and Bryson DeChambeau.

Here in 2017, would the majority of folks be offended by professionals wearing shorts in competition? I don't think so.

Wearing shorts in competition isn't being considered at this point in time, but perhaps this decision by the PGA of America paves the way for that discussion down the road. 

https://www.pga.com/news/golf-buzz/why-pga-america-allowing-shorts-practice-rounds-makes-sense

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