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Stop Lying About Your Distance - It's Pissing Me Off (Rant Thread)

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I hit the ball a decent ways around mid 160s ballspeed and I can get it to 170s if I go all out but, I'm not the longest by far from some of the guys I play with around here.  I'm longer than most of my normal playing partners but, in CGA events where I go against college players or some other taller players I'm left in the dust.  Last week I played with a guy in his early 50s and he had me by 10-20 yards every drive.  220 average for male golfers is short I haven't played with anyone decent that hits it that short around here but, if you average the shots that go OB or into a hazard then maybe.

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Why anyone gets upset with folks who hit it a long way is beyond me. I guess it's more about those that don't and lie about it? Here in FL there are quite a few very good golfers who've played since they were kids that hit it enormous distances.  It seems strange to me that folks would think 300+ yard drives are like unicorns.  I see them all the time.

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1 hour ago, 3jacker said:

It seems strange to me that folks would think 300+ yard drives are like unicorns.  I see them all the time.

It all depends on where you golf. At the courses I play at in the last 2-3 years I can count on 1 hand the number of times I played with or saw someone who could legitimately hit 300+ yard drives that wasn't already playing in some form of competitive tournament with me. One guy from a work golf league, one guy who I later saw at the US Amateur qualifying on the range, and one guy recently who I happened to pair up with this past fall.

I've met or overheard plenty of people saying they hit the ball 300 yards though.

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On ‎8‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 7:56 PM, AltGolfer said:

You do realize 100 is not 105? Take a gander at the link again.. they ran it through simulation and max carry for a 100 mph swing with perfect smash factor is 235. Not sure why your disagreeing when the whole conversation in the link agrees with me. Also Screen golf is insanely popular here which i goto weekly i know my distances and my clubhead speed. He's not hitting anywhere near those numbers. Keep day dreaming.

 

Might as well say i hit 500 yards since i only play downhill 50 mph behind my back only hitting cart paths.

From now on i shall not be known as AltGolfer but by Mr. 500 and i'll tell them exactly what you stated if someone questions my drives...  I can't lose! Win Win Situation baby!

Please explain this then...

Chase Duncan Swing Speed.PNG

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7 hours ago, Grinde6 said:

Please explain this then...

Chase Duncan Swing Speed.PNG

That's Chase Duncan out at NCstate he smashes the ball for his size.  Thats him swinging easy and he's like 125lbs or something

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36 minutes ago, poser said:

That's Chase Duncan out at NCstate he smashes the ball for his size.  Thats him swinging easy and he's like 125lbs or something

Fact remains…

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I have two "distances" for my drives.   One that is average of every drive I hit in a round, and the other one is what I "could" average when I hit every shot solid.   I think most golfers quote the latter when they speak of their distance.   

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Well, I'm always confused about "average." I hit a PW roughly 115. But if I catch one of ten super fat and hit it 60 yards, that would bring my average down over five yards. Add in two just regularly fat PWs that go 90 yards, and we can deduct another few yards off the average. 

And the same applies to the driver. The driver is obviously more consistent, but sometimes you yank one a bit and hit that tree hovering near the edge of the fairway and end up hitting a solid ball that actually only went 120 yards. 

So for the purposes of discussion, I usually think of my "average" distance with the driver as being a anything that isn't horribly struck that avoided that overhanging tree. But even then I'm not sure. I almost always have one shitty wipe per round that's high and fades and probably ends up at 200-210. That happens more than me puring one with a driving ball flight that goes 260 (of course I'm assuming the general flat no wind qualifiers). But that still doesn't stop me from saying 240-250 off the tee. That's a "typical" solid drive. None of us are pros. If you took the REAL average of our full swings, we're all hitting the wrong club almost every time.

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9 minutes ago, Aguirre said:

Well, I'm always confused about "average." I hit a PW roughly 115. But if I catch one of ten super fat and hit it 60 yards, that would bring my average down over five yards. Add in two just regularly fat PWs that go 90 yards, and we can deduct another few yards off the average. 

And the same applies to the driver. The driver is obviously more consistent, but sometimes you yank one a bit and hit that tree hovering near the edge of the fairway and end up hitting a solid ball that actually only went 120 yards. 

So for the purposes of discussion, I usually think of my "average" distance with the driver as being a anything that isn't horribly struck that avoided that overhanging tree. But even then I'm not sure. I always always have one shitty wipe per round that's high and fades and probably ends up at 200-210. That happens more than me puring one with a driving ball flight that goes 260 (of course I'm assuming the general flat no wind qualifiers). But that still doesn't stop me from saying 240-250 off the tee. That's a "typical" solid drive. None of us are pros. If you took the REAL average of our full swings, we're all hitting the wrong club almost every time.

If you want a more accurate average then you should just take outliers. Take you top and bottom 10% of your drives and throw them out. The average of your middle 80% will be much more useful to your gameplanning and tee selection....or just get a gamegolf device and it does the work for you 🙂

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3 minutes ago, HJJ003 said:

If you want a more accurate average then you should just take outliers. Take you top and bottom 10% of your drives and throw them out. The average of your middle 80% will be much more useful to your gameplanning and tee selection....or just get a gamegolf device and it does the work for you 🙂

Oh, I get that. I don't need the gamegolf thing though to judge club distances. There are plenty of charts out there that pretty much match perfectly with my club distances. When I misclub I almost always know why. The problem for me isn't using the wrong club, it's that whole hitting the golf ball thing.

EDIT--I'm Longleaf purple 6 almost perfectly.

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Yeah...My biggest problem has always been being too good, at golf, to establish some kind of base line.  I might shoot 77 one day and 107 the next.  My typical pigeon wedge carries about 180 yards...wind not withstanding...which makes it difficult to judge the shorter shots.  Heck...I can hit my putter about 120 on a bad day.  The problem, for me, has always been that my prodigious length makes being closer to the hole all that more problematical.  How do you approach a 10 foot putt when your average distance, with a putter, is 36 times that?  

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1 hour ago, Aguirre said:

EDIT--I'm Longleaf purple 6 almost perfectly.

Good deal. It’s nice when those charts work out perfectly. My irons are slightly longer than purple 6 in that system, but my driver is 10 yards shorter. Most likely due to a steep AoA.

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On 8/26/2018 at 5:09 AM, AltGolfer said:

Let's say you actually average out to 270 yds. That would require around 105 MPH swing. Which doesn't factor in smash factor/angle. By being a 34 handicap you don't have the fundamentals/mechanics to achieve a consistent strike. The distance your proposing to me is of someone who swings at 120 MPH+ Since you claim you hit it 300 at times. Damn didn't know you swung faster than Tiger Woods. Why aren't your friends and you on tour? Should be smashing it 350 down the fairway.

Your exactly what im talking about in my rant thread. All the articles i listed are not even 2 years old. 

I guess all the statistically data over 20,000 golfers on trackman and what-not are bullshit and your friends and you are the 0.1% minority?

I swing faster than Tiger woods lol. I'm in the .01% minority! Pretty exciting until I push one right or hook one haha. I haven't really played with super short hitters. Most of my friends are ex baseball guys like myself and can generate some good speed. Heck my dad at 62 can still hit over 280 on occasion (total distance). I can regularly go over 320 on the course... Sometimes much longer and sometimes much shorter depending on how much I suck that day. Us mid to high handicap guys who can go over 300 exist although I can now dip down and touch a 78 or 79 on occasion if I'm really on. 

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On 10/3/2018 at 1:07 PM, Pretzel said:

It all depends on where you golf. At the courses I play at in the last 2-3 years I can count on 1 hand the number of times I played with or saw someone who could legitimately hit 300+ yard drives that wasn't already playing in some form of competitive tournament with me. One guy from a work golf league, one guy who I later saw at the US Amateur qualifying on the range, and one guy recently who I happened to pair up with this past fall.

I've met or overheard plenty of people saying they hit the ball 300 yards though.

The 300+ hitters at my home course are mostly former professional athletes, especially ex MLB pitchers and ex NFL quarterbacks. Then there are the tall, lanky college players. As for the rest of the membership, a cart path generally has to be involved at some point to get beyond 300 ... You can’t put in what God left out 😁

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I used to think I averaged about 240-250 roll out. I'm a high handicap, don't have an official one but it would be probably close to 30. I figured 240-250 was pretty average for most amateurs that were semi athletic and played occasionally. I assumed ppl that played alot more and had mid-teen caps probably drove 270ish+. 

I just sort of guess-timated my driving average based on distance to the hole from tee to approximate distance left. Never been on a launch monitor to get numbers of any kind. 

Several weeks ago I bought a set of Cobra F8 clubs which have accros sensors in them. Come to find out I am averaging 223 with a long of 252. So I was well under what I thought. 

I was happy to see that my 5i (actually 5h) averages more than I thought. I'd thought my 5 went 150-60. Averaging 180.

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9 minutes ago, paulballs said:

I was happy...

You might want to get fitted for a driver as you don’t seem to have a lot of separation between your 5h and driver. I would expect 10 to 15 yards more driver distance if your 5h distance is accurate. You could be leaving some distance on the table.

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