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Welcome The Sand Trap.

Not sure I know what your point is…? If you're referring to the name of the site, it of course doesn't have to conform to the Rules of Golf, and honestly… if I had called the site "TheBunker.com" people might have thought it was about wars or something.

And…

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So, as you posted this in Rules of Golf, did I misunderstand something? Can you clarify what exactly it is you're trying to say?

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Patch Incredible Member

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I've heard some bunkers referred to as "gravel pits" with good reason. 

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11 minutes ago, Doug Sands said:

Just trying to enlighten your golfers 

We don't need enlightened.

Calling a bunker a "sand trap" is understood and accepted slang. The name of the site doesn't need to conform to the Rules of Golf.

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saevel25 Incredible Member

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42 minutes ago, Doug Sands said:

Just trying to enlighten your golfers 

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Patch Incredible Member

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Well we could go with upside down sand dunes I suppose. "Little Deserts" does have a good ring to it though. 

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Why quibble?  Woods are not wooden.  There is no tee box.  Par and bogey have morphed.  I don't see a problem.  

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4 hours ago, Doug Sands said:

In PGA school if you said "sand trap " they put a giant mouse trap in front of you until someone else said that term.  Now you know 

No, they don’t.

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He has 3 posts and they are all related to debating the forum name.... there is plenty of great information on the forum. 

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Martyn W Dedicated Member

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

No, they don’t.

There is no Doug Sands listed in PGA members directory, maybe he was referring to the Potato Growers of America  school??

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1 hour ago, dennyjones said:

He has 3 posts and they are all related to debating the forum name.... there is plenty of great information on the forum. 

We all have our battles to wage.

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Sandy Divot Great Member

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20 hours ago, Doug Sands said:

Nowhere in the rules of golf does it say, "sand trap"

When you find it,  please let me know.  

They're called "bunkers." Go look. You won't find a bunker referred to as sand traps.

I'll call them whatever I want.

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I call them "flaws" in the course design that destroy my great round!

 

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7 hours ago, Sandy Divot said:

I'll call them whatever I want.

`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'

`When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, `I always pay it extra.'

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