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40 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

So, if I'm reading this right, missing on the low side IS the amateur side. 

Missing on the high side ISN'T the pro-side.

Kinda.

Pros miss on both sides nearly equally. There's no such thing as a pro side.

Amateurs typically under-read putts, so yeah, missing low is the amateur side.

I say "kinda" because missing low ~45% of the time is the pro side.

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

 

I'll have to go with blind faith here.  I trust you but I've always hear that the moment of truth was impact.  It didn't matter how you got there but most good swings all hit impact pretty much for the most part the same.

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6 minutes ago, dennyjones said:

I'll have to go with blind faith here.  I trust you but I've always hear that the moment of truth was impact.  It didn't matter how you got there but most good swings all hit impact pretty much for the most part the same.

Don't go on blind faith. Look some up yourself. Go to impact, and yeah, they're gonna have Key #3 and stuff, but Jim Furyk's swing doesn't look like TIger's swing, Dustin Johnson's, Jack Nicklaus's, Brian Gay's, etc.

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44 minutes ago, iacas said:

Don't go on blind faith. Look some up yourself. Go to impact, and yeah, they're gonna have Key #3 and stuff, but Jim Furyk's swing doesn't look like TIger's swing, Dustin Johnson's, Jack Nicklaus's, Brian Gay's, etc. 

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Captain Obvious - there's a difference in the look of impact if you put side by side, someone with a weak grip vs someone with a strong grip

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Well I always just assumed the ‘impact’ saying was referring to a pro’s impact being:

1. With weight forward.

2. Hands past the ball.

3. Straight lead wrist.

4. Path inside to out.

I didn’t think it ever meant they look the same.

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4 hours ago, Vinsk said:

Well I always just assumed the ‘impact’ saying was referring to a pro’s impact being:

1. With weight forward.

2. Hands past the ball.

3. Straight lead wrist.

4. Path inside to out.

I didn’t think it ever meant they look the same.

I guess that is what I was trying to suggest.     Thanks @Vinsk

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10 hours ago, dennyjones said:

I guess that is what I was trying to suggest.     Thanks @Vinsk

You guys know that. Many others do not.

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18 hours ago, dennyjones said:

It didn't matter how you got there but most good swings all hit impact pretty much for the most part the same.

@iacas Is this a candidate for a "golf myth" (or a corollary of #55)?  Alternatively phrased as "you don't hit the ball with your backswing" (implying it's not [as] important).

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36 minutes ago, Missouri Swede said:

@iacas Is this a candidate for a "golf myth" (or a corollary of #55)?

That read to me as the same thing as the myth I posted.

36 minutes ago, Missouri Swede said:

Alternatively phrased as "you don't hit the ball with your backswing" (implying it's not [as] important).

That's something else entirely, and I would say that the backswing is not as important. So I don't know that I'd call it a myth.

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6 minutes ago, iacas said:

 

So that's why my shots on that 180 yard downhill par 3 always hook into the hazard!:-P

Pretty much negligible from a design standpoint. I find more offset head a little harder to aim because it looks closed to me.

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16 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Pretty much negligible from a design standpoint. I find more offset head a little harder to aim because it looks closed to me.

It is probably closed! It's tough to aim an offset club right.

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On 12/13/2018 at 8:37 AM, ChetlovesMer said:

I'd like to suggest a topic for this thread if I may? 

Myth or not? Golf is inherently bad for the environment.... 

I've heard this one a lot lately when I tell non-golfers how much I enjoy golf. There have been many who've gone on and on about the chemicals and what not that golf courses use to "destroy the environment" ... or green up the course. 

 Which explain why there is more wildlife on the golf course than in surrounding areas

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8 minutes ago, iacas said:

 

I grew up reading “low and slow” backswing tips and was always a slower swinger versus what I should have been probably.  I’ve increase swing speed with super speed training and it does help me to swing a little faster going back for speed. It also helps me to get the club more vertical quickly.  For me, I developed a habit of the club getting flat and under plane quickly with the slow backswing.  Giving it a little speed to start helps me hinge my wrists sooner and get the clubhead up if that makes sense.  

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1 hour ago, Wanzo said:

I grew up reading “low and slow” backswing tips and was always a slower swinger versus what I should have been probably.  I’ve increase swing speed with super speed training and it does help me to swing a little faster going back for speed. It also helps me to get the club more vertical quickly.  For me, I developed a habit of the club getting flat and under plane quickly with the slow backswing.  Giving it a little speed to start helps me hinge my wrists sooner and get the clubhead up if that makes sense.  

Yeah, I've kinda tested this with people doing SuperSpeed at GE, too… I'll have them try the "slow backswing" and they invariably swing slower. Haven't had anyone yet set a new record or even really get super close to one doing that.

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